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While networked cars are interesting, there is also a massive security issue here. Hackers will easily figure out a way to spoof the communication, and could p
by the_duke 10y ago
While networked cars are interesting, there is also a massive security issue here.
Hackers will easily figure out a way to spoof the communication, and could play with traffic.
There are mitigations for most issues, but it's a complex topic.
Just imagine some scenarios:
-) Spoof an emergency break advisory that causes tailing cars to also do an emergency break. (could be mitigated by first observing that cars in front are actually slowing down before breaking)
-) Spoof a command from a smart traffic light at an intersection to stop immediately for police / other emergency traffic. (need to check if traffic light is actually red)
-) Spoof speed restrictions issued by a smart highway traffic jam prevention system.
-) A system for police to force a car to stop immediately and pull over, eliminating car chases. Just spoof this signal and stop anyone you want. (mitigate by checking if there is a police car trailing you, and ignore otherwise).
And so on...
A way around would be to maintain a national database with public keys for each registered vehicle, and make cars only accept those keys. But that would be hard to maintain and still hackers could just get a hold of some PK.
In the end, the driving system will always have to correlate such car 2 car communication with observations it makes itself.
And an autonomous system can react almost immediately anyway.
So coordination doesen't give you all that much.
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There are some useful ideas though, like:
-) Traffic lights can announce an ideal speed for a route, taking into account traffic and traffic light timings, so you can optimize throughput and minimize fuel consumption
- shanusmagnus 10y agoAll good points. Seems like you could get around it by using these other-car communications as noisy signals and weighting evidence against the world as the car sees it, e.g., if you get a spoofed emergency brake advisory, and the car's own percepts suggest there's no reason to brake, the resultant action may be to not brake. The signal from the other car[s] becomes just another feature.
- learningman 10y agoConsidering the millions of miles driven each day, even if the networked signal wasn't heavily weighted, a spoofed emergency brake advisor signal could still do significant damage.
- drcross 10y ago>Hackers will easily figure out a way to spoof the communication, and could play with traffic. It's far far easier and quicker to throw a brick off a highway bridge but that surprisingly happens very infrequently.
- joemi 10y agoI don't think that's really all that relevant. The two activities at hand (hacking networked cars vs. throwing a brick off a bridge) appeal to two different types of people. Also one can (theoretically) be done from the comfort of one's own house/office/bedroom which can be anywhere in the world, while the other requires going to the specific location of the traffic.