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How do you know that? Are you going by the webmasters tool performance page? I'd imagine that view is a very simplified perspective on the actual metrics that s

How do you know that? Are you going by the webmasters tool performance page? I'd imagine that view is a very simplified perspective on the actual metrics that search uses for ranking.

CWIZO 17y ago
weebmaster tools reports 10-20x grater response time than it actually is for one of the pages I maintain (haven't checked the others). So I would also conclude that it measures the time until every last CSS,JS and iframe is loaded. And that is just not right. Ok, I understand that they take CSS into account. But my pages work without JS, and I only use iframe-s to display ads. The point is that my page is readable long before JS files and ads are loaded. I'd also like to know if they take caching of CSS,JS and image files into account.
- landyman 17y ago
  Even though I couldn't find out if they do in the Webmaster Tools Report; the Page Speed Analyzer (Firefox Add-on from Google) does take it into account (as does YSlow, another Speed Testing Add-on from Yahoo). I would think that Google would take it into account because checking if something is cachable is easy; and I don't think Google is stupid enough to not check that.
eli 17y ago
They reportedly said that they would use both the time to get HTML from Googlebot (presumably what Webmaster Tools shows) as well as the time to load the whole page, as measured by people with the Google toolbar. http://searchengineland.com/google-now-counts-site-speed-as-ranking-factor-39708 http://searchengineland.com/google-now-counts-site-speed-as-...
swombat 17y ago
Screenshot from my webmasters tool performance page: http://skitch.com/swombat/n6fwb/webmaster-tools-site-performance http://skitch.com/swombat/n6fwb/webmaster-tools-site-perform... I hope that's not the metric they're using for search, because it misrepresents the page loading time massively.
- pierrefar 17y ago
  There are two things to consider: 1. How fast the server responds and how quickly the page contents (HTML, CSS, JS, etc) are downloaded. 2. How long the rendering of the contents takes. Using blocking JS will slow this down. Using horribly complex CSS selectors would also affect the rendering. Google Analytics moved to non-blocking loading recently (it's different JS code), which I think is part of a bigger push within Google. Other services should do the same.

How do you know that? Are you going by the webmasters tool performance page? I'd imagine that view is a very simplified perspective on the actual metrics that search uses for ranking.

CWIZO 17y ago

weebmaster tools reports 10-20x grater response time than it actually is for one of the pages I maintain (haven't checked the others). So I would also conclude that it measures the time until every last CSS,JS and iframe is loaded. And that is just not right. Ok, I understand that they take CSS into account. But my pages work without JS, and I only use iframe-s to display ads. The point is that my page is readable long before JS files and ads are loaded. I'd also like to know if they take caching of CSS,JS and image files into account.

landyman 17y ago
Even though I couldn't find out if they do in the Webmaster Tools Report; the Page Speed Analyzer (Firefox Add-on from Google) does take it into account (as does YSlow, another Speed Testing Add-on from Yahoo). I would think that Google would take it into account because checking if something is cachable is easy; and I don't think Google is stupid enough to not check that.

eli 17y ago

They reportedly said that they would use both the time to get HTML from Googlebot (presumably what Webmaster Tools shows) as well as the time to load the whole page, as measured by people with the Google toolbar. http://searchengineland.com/google-now-counts-site-speed-as-ranking-factor-39708 http://searchengineland.com/google-now-counts-site-speed-as-...

swombat 17y ago

Screenshot from my webmasters tool performance page: http://skitch.com/swombat/n6fwb/webmaster-tools-site-performance http://skitch.com/swombat/n6fwb/webmaster-tools-site-perform... I hope that's not the metric they're using for search, because it misrepresents the page loading time massively.

pierrefar 17y ago
There are two things to consider: 1. How fast the server responds and how quickly the page contents (HTML, CSS, JS, etc) are downloaded. 2. How long the rendering of the contents takes. Using blocking JS will slow this down. Using horribly complex CSS selectors would also affect the rendering. Google Analytics moved to non-blocking loading recently (it's different JS code), which I think is part of a bigger push within Google. Other services should do the same.