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> Compete by having a better SoC, better camera/screen Do you think those things are free?

by Veen 10y ago

awill 10y ago
Right, but there is no SoC that can compete with Apple's A10 fusion SoC. Google just buys off the shelf Qualcomm parts, and they are far slower, especially when you take into account that the Google phones need even more horsepower because they run at much higher resolution.
- strictnein 10y ago
  In single core benchmarks, Apple's A10 is king. In multicore it's pretty much inline with others. https://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/09/14/geekbench-android-a10 https://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/09/14/geekbench-andro... The Samsung Galaxy S7 is 6 months old, and the iPhone 7 beats it by 5% in multicore benchmarks.
  - rys 10y ago
    The iPhone has half the number of active cores.
    - bitmapbrother 10y ago
      Those A series cores are also larger than the Qualcomm cores.
trapperkeeper79 10y ago
No .. but Apple makes its rather hefty margin on hardware. I thought Google makes its margins on software and services. At these rumored price points, I'd rather go with an iPhone (and deal with stupid adapters). I bought a nexus 5x last year .. it had a weird screen issue. It was eligible for a change but I didn't want to go through the hassle of mailing it in. With Apple, I could have gone to a retail store. Not saying Apple is awesome .. they are acting like overlords these days (lack of Macbook refreshes, selling two year old hardware at premium prices such as the ipad air 2, etc.) but I guess they can do it because they have no formidable competition. This pricing is silly .. I suspect they will have big discounts by January. So that this is not just a rant, here is how to fix the situation: I think Google needs to think different ;-) Compete on what Apple cannot give. Aggressive prices, expandable storage and removable batteries. It is sad that Android phones (Nexuses and others) have become more and more like iPhones when it comes to consumer hostility. Just my personal opinions btw.

> Compete by having a better SoC, better camera/screen Do you think those things are free?

by Veen 10y ago

> Compete by having a better SoC, better camera/screen Do you think those things are free?

awill 10y ago

Right, but there is no SoC that can compete with Apple's A10 fusion SoC. Google just buys off the shelf Qualcomm parts, and they are far slower, especially when you take into account that the Google phones need even more horsepower because they run at much higher resolution.

strictnein 10y ago
In single core benchmarks, Apple's A10 is king. In multicore it's pretty much inline with others. https://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/09/14/geekbench-android-a10 https://daringfireball.net/linked/2016/09/14/geekbench-andro... The Samsung Galaxy S7 is 6 months old, and the iPhone 7 beats it by 5% in multicore benchmarks.
- rys 10y ago
  The iPhone has half the number of active cores.
  - bitmapbrother 10y ago
    Those A series cores are also larger than the Qualcomm cores.

trapperkeeper79 10y ago

No .. but Apple makes its rather hefty margin on hardware. I thought Google makes its margins on software and services. At these rumored price points, I'd rather go with an iPhone (and deal with stupid adapters). I bought a nexus 5x last year .. it had a weird screen issue. It was eligible for a change but I didn't want to go through the hassle of mailing it in. With Apple, I could have gone to a retail store. Not saying Apple is awesome .. they are acting like overlords these days (lack of Macbook refreshes, selling two year old hardware at premium prices such as the ipad air 2, etc.) but I guess they can do it because they have no formidable competition. This pricing is silly .. I suspect they will have big discounts by January. So that this is not just a rant, here is how to fix the situation: I think Google needs to think different ;-) Compete on what Apple cannot give. Aggressive prices, expandable storage and removable batteries. It is sad that Android phones (Nexuses and others) have become more and more like iPhones when it comes to consumer hostility. Just my personal opinions btw.