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It's also in Apple's interest to get people using Objective-C and their toolkit. It brings developers to the Mac by forcing them to buy one. I'm not convinced

It's also in Apple's interest to get people using Objective-C and their toolkit. It brings developers to the Mac by forcing them to buy one. I'm not convinced Apple is trying to force developers to buy Macs, and I'm far from convinced that such a strategy would actually work.

tcdent 17y ago
While I agree that Apple isn't forcing developers onto the Mac from a financial perspective, I think it's in their best interest to promote it from a holistic one. Indie Mac developers think a little differently than any other, and it's a direct result of the influence from Apple's UX aesthetic. There is immense respect for the conventions that have been established, and any feature that breaks away from them better have a damn good reason. I just can't see a developer that chooses Windows XP as their main operating system completely understanding the platform and putting the same amount of care into their work.
- abstractbill 17y ago
  While I agree that Apple isn't forcing developers onto the Mac from a financial perspective, I think it's in their best interest to promote it from a holistic one. The funny thing is, Apple has been promoting their platform to developers for years by making it a Unix that just works. And now they're un-promoting it by having a bunch of developer-hostile policies.
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barrkel 17y ago
I bought a Mac Mini with my iPod touch solely so that I could potentially write applications for it. I never did get around to it - my girlfriend went farther than I did - and so it sits, gathering dust, under my desk. But if I had a toolkit that let me develop iPhone apps without having to buy a Mac Mini, then I'd be much more likely to develop an iPhone app. So take me as a data point: the existing practical restrictions forced me to buy a Mac.
- Qz 17y ago
  If you don't want it, I am open to donations...
  - barrkel 17y ago
    It turns out that Embarcadero Technologies, the company I work for, is now developing an IDE that targets the Mac. It will be useful for testing that, at least.
- tcdent 17y ago
  Continuing on the theme of my comment to the parent, I'll say: good riddance. The App Store is 185k titles strong, most of them crap. Developers without a passion for the platform are exactly what they don't need any more of.
  - barrkel 17y ago
    The iPhone platform isn't the same as the Mac platform. And Sturgeon's law will most likely always apply.

tcdent 17y ago

While I agree that Apple isn't forcing developers onto the Mac from a financial perspective, I think it's in their best interest to promote it from a holistic one. Indie Mac developers think a little differently than any other, and it's a direct result of the influence from Apple's UX aesthetic. There is immense respect for the conventions that have been established, and any feature that breaks away from them better have a damn good reason. I just can't see a developer that chooses Windows XP as their main operating system completely understanding the platform and putting the same amount of care into their work.

abstractbill 17y ago
While I agree that Apple isn't forcing developers onto the Mac from a financial perspective, I think it's in their best interest to promote it from a holistic one. The funny thing is, Apple has been promoting their platform to developers for years by making it a Unix that just works. And now they're un-promoting it by having a bunch of developer-hostile policies.
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barrkel 17y ago

I bought a Mac Mini with my iPod touch solely so that I could potentially write applications for it. I never did get around to it - my girlfriend went farther than I did - and so it sits, gathering dust, under my desk. But if I had a toolkit that let me develop iPhone apps without having to buy a Mac Mini, then I'd be much more likely to develop an iPhone app. So take me as a data point: the existing practical restrictions forced me to buy a Mac.

Qz 17y ago
If you don't want it, I am open to donations...
- barrkel 17y ago
  It turns out that Embarcadero Technologies, the company I work for, is now developing an IDE that targets the Mac. It will be useful for testing that, at least.
tcdent 17y ago
Continuing on the theme of my comment to the parent, I'll say: good riddance. The App Store is 185k titles strong, most of them crap. Developers without a passion for the platform are exactly what they don't need any more of.
- barrkel 17y ago
  The iPhone platform isn't the same as the Mac platform. And Sturgeon's law will most likely always apply.