> And don't forget that even with the driving, everything takes less time. What do you mean by "take less time"? My experience doesn't bare that out, but we m

> And don't forget that even with the driving, everything takes less time. What do you mean by "take less time"? My experience doesn't bare that out, but we might be thinking about very different things. For context: I live in a fairly residential area now, where I drive to get groceries or to get food. I used to live in San Francisco, where I had four grocery stores and a whole bunch of restaurants and bars within four block.