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Roma Gypsies have been unsuccessfully trying to integrate into Europe since the 15th century. It's funny how the human rights Nazis support them but care less a

by nikolay 10y ago

Roma Gypsies have been unsuccessfully trying to integrate into Europe since the 15th century. It's funny how the human rights Nazis support them but care less about their helpless and hopeless victims! In Bulgaria, many retired people live daily under the Gypsy terror, and nobody cares! These double standards make me sick! There are rights but rights come with responsibilities! If you reject to accept your civil responsibilities, you waive your rights - it's that simple!

caf 10y ago
As opposed to the actual Nazis that sent them to the gas chambers. The entire point of universal human rights - which grew out of the aftermath of that same Holocaust, incidentally - is that you don't waive them, ever. And it's particularly abhorrent to suggest that the rights of an entire group can be collectively abrogated by the actions of some - or even many or most - of that group.
- tdkl 10y ago
  That's a cute and proud theory until the ones who pay the bills are in place where they feel the government is neglecting them in favour of others and the economy isn't helping as well. You know, the citizens/taxpayers. Specially the lower and middle class, which is getting rare because of globalisation. Everything has its price.
  - caf 10y ago
    That's a cute retort until it becomes apparent that many of those citizens/taxpayers are quite happy for their government to expend great sums of money in the service of brutalising others. https://www.theguardian.com/news/series/nauru-files https://www.theguardian.com/news/series/nauru-files
- nikolay 10y ago
  Well, except that the Roma Gypsies are a special case as their "integration" has been for too long unsuccessful or more directly said - self-boycotted. In fact, their integration was unsuccessful back in India, their homeland, where they recently were found via genetic studies to descend from the Untouchables caste. In their culture, unless you steal gold, it's not considered theft. Some of their tribes still cut the right thumb of their children as it's easier to pickpocket without it. They buy their women on auctions, and there's polygamy with some. There many details about the "culture" of Roma Gypsies that Westerners are unaware of. I highly recommend you the movie "Hotel Paradise" [0], which will greatly change your perspective! The entire movie is free to watch in its entirety, it seems surreal, but it's only real! [0]: https://vimeo.com/13906172 https://vimeo.com/13906172
GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
> human rights Nazis What the hell.
- nikolay 10y ago
  It's not an oxymoron - it's the sad reality of today. It's pretty much like most PETA fans who'd gladly kill a hunter to save their prey - only with Gypsies it's the reverse situation as the prey, in this case, is the victims of the Gypsies - in Bulgaria, at least.

by nikolay 10y ago

caf 10y ago

As opposed to the actual Nazis that sent them to the gas chambers. The entire point of universal human rights - which grew out of the aftermath of that same Holocaust, incidentally - is that you don't waive them, ever. And it's particularly abhorrent to suggest that the rights of an entire group can be collectively abrogated by the actions of some - or even many or most - of that group.

tdkl 10y ago
That's a cute and proud theory until the ones who pay the bills are in place where they feel the government is neglecting them in favour of others and the economy isn't helping as well. You know, the citizens/taxpayers. Specially the lower and middle class, which is getting rare because of globalisation. Everything has its price.
- caf 10y ago
  That's a cute retort until it becomes apparent that many of those citizens/taxpayers are quite happy for their government to expend great sums of money in the service of brutalising others. https://www.theguardian.com/news/series/nauru-files https://www.theguardian.com/news/series/nauru-files
nikolay 10y ago
Well, except that the Roma Gypsies are a special case as their "integration" has been for too long unsuccessful or more directly said - self-boycotted. In fact, their integration was unsuccessful back in India, their homeland, where they recently were found via genetic studies to descend from the Untouchables caste. In their culture, unless you steal gold, it's not considered theft. Some of their tribes still cut the right thumb of their children as it's easier to pickpocket without it. They buy their women on auctions, and there's polygamy with some. There many details about the "culture" of Roma Gypsies that Westerners are unaware of. I highly recommend you the movie "Hotel Paradise" [0], which will greatly change your perspective! The entire movie is free to watch in its entirety, it seems surreal, but it's only real! [0]: https://vimeo.com/13906172 https://vimeo.com/13906172

GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago

> human rights Nazis What the hell.

nikolay 10y ago
It's not an oxymoron - it's the sad reality of today. It's pretty much like most PETA fans who'd gladly kill a hunter to save their prey - only with Gypsies it's the reverse situation as the prey, in this case, is the victims of the Gypsies - in Bulgaria, at least.