On the other hand, frameworks like Ember are still chugging along quite happily, and swallowing up any actually good ideas the rest of the community has. For ex

On the other hand, frameworks like Ember are still chugging along quite happily, and swallowing up any actually good ideas the rest of the community has. For example, isomorphic apps spawned "fastboot", where with one plugin you can generate an isomorphic app from your existing Ember project (with some tweaking), talking to your existing API server.