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For me salary means a minimum of 40 hours. I even have to record my time still and the tool will take no less than 40. Even if I worked 60 the week before. I do

For me salary means a minimum of 40 hours. I even have to record my time still and the tool will take no less than 40. Even if I worked 60 the week before. I do sometimes have those days where I struggle to find things to do but those become more rare as I get more experienced.

enraged_camel 10y ago
When I interview for salaried positions one of the questions I always ask is, "do I have to clock in/out?" If the answer is yes, I politely say "thanks, but no thanks." Salaried positions are not supposed to be 40 hours minimum. They should be measuring your output, not your hours worked. That's the entire point of not being an hourly worker.
- johnward 10y ago
  I'm a consultant and, like most, bill by the hour. So it makes sense to track hours in that aspect but I don't know anyone who always hits or exceeds 100% of their target utilization. Which means if you don't have billable work you still need to find some BS to do until you hit 40 hours. I do go over 100% of my target utilization often, which in most exempt positions would open up some opportunity to leave a little bit early on a slow week. I've mentioned that I'm exempt and still have to track time and most people just respond "you're not exempt, you don't know what it means".
  - freehunter 10y ago
    When I read your first post I was going to respond "I'm a consultant and while I have to log 40 hours in the time tracker, I don't always bill 40 hours to clients". Much like yourself, if my clients don't have 40 hours of work for me, not much I can do about that. But next week they might have 60, so it balances out. I've never worked a job where I didn't have to track my time, though. Four different companies, employed as full time staff, I've always had to justify where my time went each week.
    - johnward 10y ago
      Yeah. Even if you are a staff software engineer there is usually someway for the company to track what you actually are putting your time towards. Then I hear from tons of salaried workers who don't have to track time at all.

enraged_camel 10y ago

When I interview for salaried positions one of the questions I always ask is, "do I have to clock in/out?" If the answer is yes, I politely say "thanks, but no thanks." Salaried positions are not supposed to be 40 hours minimum. They should be measuring your output, not your hours worked. That's the entire point of not being an hourly worker.

johnward 10y ago
I'm a consultant and, like most, bill by the hour. So it makes sense to track hours in that aspect but I don't know anyone who always hits or exceeds 100% of their target utilization. Which means if you don't have billable work you still need to find some BS to do until you hit 40 hours. I do go over 100% of my target utilization often, which in most exempt positions would open up some opportunity to leave a little bit early on a slow week. I've mentioned that I'm exempt and still have to track time and most people just respond "you're not exempt, you don't know what it means".
- freehunter 10y ago
  When I read your first post I was going to respond "I'm a consultant and while I have to log 40 hours in the time tracker, I don't always bill 40 hours to clients". Much like yourself, if my clients don't have 40 hours of work for me, not much I can do about that. But next week they might have 60, so it balances out. I've never worked a job where I didn't have to track my time, though. Four different companies, employed as full time staff, I've always had to justify where my time went each week.
  - johnward 10y ago
    Yeah. Even if you are a staff software engineer there is usually someway for the company to track what you actually are putting your time towards. Then I hear from tons of salaried workers who don't have to track time at all.