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Oracle may be evil, but they aren't dumb. A lot of their revenue comes from businesses which have much stricter requirements around data privacy than individual

Oracle may be evil, but they aren't dumb. A lot of their revenue comes from businesses which have much stricter requirements around data privacy than individuals.

qwertyuiop924 10y ago
They won't sell off your data, but they'll screw you over as much as they can: Can you spell "vendor lock-in", or "overpriced"?
- rbanffy 10y ago
  If all you do is deploying to Linux VMs, it'll be very hard to lock you in. If you depend on their proprietary software, you deserve what you get.
  - qwertyuiop924 10y ago
    ...And I suspect that if you deploy on them, they try their damned hardest to ensure that you depend on their exclusive cloud software. And to minimize data export options as much as possible.
    - rbanffy 10y ago
      It's really hard to prevent me from doing a database dump, tar-bz2-ing it and scp-ing it someplace else. It would need to be something outrageously brain-damaged to fail that low level of functionality.
      - qwertyuiop924 10y ago
        They can't eliminate it, but they can make it as hard as possible: encourage you to use Oracle DBs, etc.
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- Annatar 10y ago
  That depends: if you feel paying $47,000 per license for an Oracle database is overpriced, considering it's pretty much the only database which actually works and can withstand the kind of abuse large customers dish out at it, then I guess it's overpriced. I happen to think it's a bargain and a half, and wouldn't mind paying for it in the least. I know exactly what I'd be getting, and what that baby can do. And for $47,000, it can do so much in one package that other databases better hide. The only other database which can measure up against Oracle is Vertica, which is surprise! surprise! another commercial product (at $150,000, Vertica is much more expensive, but it's also awesome). PostgreSQL comes in a distant third, and for the users of the enormous and completely exotic, there's Teradata. And with the exception of PostgreSQL, which still has long way to go with respect to synchronous multimaster replication, all these other databases cost so much that it's enough to make one's head spin. So Oracle is actually the cheapest.

Oracle may be evil, but they aren't dumb. A lot of their revenue comes from businesses which have much stricter requirements around data privacy than individuals.

qwertyuiop924 10y ago

They won't sell off your data, but they'll screw you over as much as they can: Can you spell "vendor lock-in", or "overpriced"?

rbanffy 10y ago
If all you do is deploying to Linux VMs, it'll be very hard to lock you in. If you depend on their proprietary software, you deserve what you get.
- qwertyuiop924 10y ago
  ...And I suspect that if you deploy on them, they try their damned hardest to ensure that you depend on their exclusive cloud software. And to minimize data export options as much as possible.
  - rbanffy 10y ago
    It's really hard to prevent me from doing a database dump, tar-bz2-ing it and scp-ing it someplace else. It would need to be something outrageously brain-damaged to fail that low level of functionality.
    - qwertyuiop924 10y ago
      They can't eliminate it, but they can make it as hard as possible: encourage you to use Oracle DBs, etc.
      - deleted 10y ago
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Annatar 10y ago
That depends: if you feel paying $47,000 per license for an Oracle database is overpriced, considering it's pretty much the only database which actually works and can withstand the kind of abuse large customers dish out at it, then I guess it's overpriced. I happen to think it's a bargain and a half, and wouldn't mind paying for it in the least. I know exactly what I'd be getting, and what that baby can do. And for $47,000, it can do so much in one package that other databases better hide. The only other database which can measure up against Oracle is Vertica, which is surprise! surprise! another commercial product (at $150,000, Vertica is much more expensive, but it's also awesome). PostgreSQL comes in a distant third, and for the users of the enormous and completely exotic, there's Teradata. And with the exception of PostgreSQL, which still has long way to go with respect to synchronous multimaster replication, all these other databases cost so much that it's enough to make one's head spin. So Oracle is actually the cheapest.