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Note that "pass by value" isn't a copy in a language with affine types like Rust. I'm not sure passing everything by reference probably would gain much in a sy
by dbaupp 10y ago
Note that "pass by value" isn't a copy in a language with affine types like Rust.
I'm not sure passing everything by reference probably would gain much in a systems programming language in the vein of Rust: one would still need some syntactic method to distinguish between shared ("immutable") and non-shared ("mutable") references. Also, Rust-style static reasoning cares about things actually being pointers, to allow returning references safely. Lastly, being able to move things around is important too, it is a major part in Rust creating zero-overhead abstractions.
I'm not sure exactly how MLKit works, but I glanced over https://github.com/melsman/mlkit/blob/master/doc/mlkit.pdf https://github.com/melsman/mlkit/blob/master/doc/mlkit.pdf and it seems to me that its regions are somewhat less static and that it doesn't attempt to handle concurrency. I could be wrong on both counts!
- cousin_it 10y agoI think you could have mut visible at the language level, but otherwise have all parameter passing look and feel like Java, without any pointer noise or implicit copying.
- masklinn 10y agoHow would lifetimes work? Java & al get away with it because they don't reify lifetimes and the concepts of reference and value are moved at the type level (and they don't use affine types).
- cousin_it 10y agoFrom looking at research languages with similar systems (Mezzo, LinearML...) none of them seem to have pointer noise. I might be missing something though.