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Dogfooding is quite important, yeah. Some products, hmm, maybe not. For example, if I work for a dating app, I may not feel comfortable actually using the app m

by yeukhon 10y ago

Dogfooding is quite important, yeah. Some products, hmm, maybe not. For example, if I work for a dating app, I may not feel comfortable actually using the app myself especially when I am committed to a relationship. I.e. I can't dogfood it because I have no use of the product. In the case of say Facebook, I believe employees use the site internally so dogfooding is possible, even if privately some employees don't actually have a Facebook account. Going extreme, people who are responsible for designing military jet or nuclear reactor, they can't dogfood any of that, only simulation and model testing are possible.

barkingcat 10y ago
For low barrier to entry products like facebook, dating sites, etc, I think companies are smart enough to build internal facing development only environments - so as a developer you won't be "using" the dating site, just using/testing/dogfooding the internal "dev" dating site that has maybe a million robots and all the employees, contractors, partners of the company. If you haven't set down ground rules with a partner for working at a place like that, it's not a technical issue re: dogfooding, but a communication issue with your partner. For things like military jets, nuclear reactors and the like, many times companies hire ex-military jet pilots (test pilots like for example Chuck Yeager), and former nuclear power plant operators, or even university profs who developed/calculated the nuclear fission equations in the first place (ie Manhattan Projected hired basically all nuclear physicists in all universities in the US for the effort) - they also do "testing" - which could be a form of dogfooding.
- _RPM 10y ago
  That isn't the same thing as Dog-fooding by the way.
- yeukhon 10y ago
  Right, building a stage site internally or asking a pilot to test are basically user acceptance testing. Xeros builds a new printer model, replaces all the printing machines on the first floor that's dogfooding. But I get what you are trying to say.

by yeukhon 10y ago

barkingcat 10y ago

For low barrier to entry products like facebook, dating sites, etc, I think companies are smart enough to build internal facing development only environments - so as a developer you won't be "using" the dating site, just using/testing/dogfooding the internal "dev" dating site that has maybe a million robots and all the employees, contractors, partners of the company. If you haven't set down ground rules with a partner for working at a place like that, it's not a technical issue re: dogfooding, but a communication issue with your partner. For things like military jets, nuclear reactors and the like, many times companies hire ex-military jet pilots (test pilots like for example Chuck Yeager), and former nuclear power plant operators, or even university profs who developed/calculated the nuclear fission equations in the first place (ie Manhattan Projected hired basically all nuclear physicists in all universities in the US for the effort) - they also do "testing" - which could be a form of dogfooding.

_RPM 10y ago
That isn't the same thing as Dog-fooding by the way.
yeukhon 10y ago
Right, building a stage site internally or asking a pilot to test are basically user acceptance testing. Xeros builds a new printer model, replaces all the printing machines on the first floor that's dogfooding. But I get what you are trying to say.