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Oracle is smoking some dang strong weed if they honestly think they can compete with AWS. AWS does so well because they have a history of opening their platform

by zharia 10y ago

Oracle is smoking some dang strong weed if they honestly think they can compete with AWS. AWS does so well because they have a history of opening their platforms up, Oracle does the exact opposite

gaius 10y ago
Yes and no. AWS has bet on cloud-means-public-cloud. Azure and Oracle are betting on hybrid: they'll sell you a private cloud that sits in your own DC that can interoperate seamlessly with their public cloud. AWS is a no-brainer if you're a greenfield, but the jury's still out on brownfield.
- Jtsummers 10y ago
  Which also makes it more viable for government contracts. This is like looking at any other marketshare debate. Amazon/Google may win the majority of users, but MS and Oracle are going to get the ones with deep pockets. They don't need me and my piddly weekend project, or most startups. They'll make a mint off a handful of lucrative government contracts, and contracts with the defense contractors that go Oracle because the gov't has pushed it.
  - serge2k 10y ago
    That's why AWS has https://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/ https://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/
  - discodave 10y ago
    Deep pockets like the CIA? http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-details-about-the-cias-deal-with-amazon/374632/ http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-de... The moral of the story is: AWS is all public cloud, but if you're the CIA and give them $600MM... you can have a private cloud too!
  - jacques_chester 10y ago
    Microsoft have the head start on enterprise and SME sales, AWS have the head start on total customers. But Google are quick studies, have a vast amount of already-paid-for infrastructure and software, and as much cash as the others.
- taylodl 10y ago
  You, sir, know what you're talking about. The jury is definitely out on brownfield and so far Amazon doesn't seem interested in that space. Which means there's a helluva lot of market left up for grabs.

by zharia 10y ago

Oracle is smoking some dang strong weed if they honestly think they can compete with AWS. AWS does so well because they have a history of opening their platforms up, Oracle does the exact opposite

gaius 10y ago

Yes and no. AWS has bet on cloud-means-public-cloud. Azure and Oracle are betting on hybrid: they'll sell you a private cloud that sits in your own DC that can interoperate seamlessly with their public cloud. AWS is a no-brainer if you're a greenfield, but the jury's still out on brownfield.

Jtsummers 10y ago
Which also makes it more viable for government contracts. This is like looking at any other marketshare debate. Amazon/Google may win the majority of users, but MS and Oracle are going to get the ones with deep pockets. They don't need me and my piddly weekend project, or most startups. They'll make a mint off a handful of lucrative government contracts, and contracts with the defense contractors that go Oracle because the gov't has pushed it.
- serge2k 10y ago
  That's why AWS has https://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/ https://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/
- discodave 10y ago
  Deep pockets like the CIA? http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-details-about-the-cias-deal-with-amazon/374632/ http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-de... The moral of the story is: AWS is all public cloud, but if you're the CIA and give them $600MM... you can have a private cloud too!
- jacques_chester 10y ago
  Microsoft have the head start on enterprise and SME sales, AWS have the head start on total customers. But Google are quick studies, have a vast amount of already-paid-for infrastructure and software, and as much cash as the others.
taylodl 10y ago
You, sir, know what you're talking about. The jury is definitely out on brownfield and so far Amazon doesn't seem interested in that space. Which means there's a helluva lot of market left up for grabs.