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5 years ago and we still haven't got wayland yet.

morsch 10y ago
It's available in Fedora 24: Fedora 24 continues to improve support for the next-generation display server, Wayland. Wayland is still not the default for Fedora 24, but it worked well enough that I would not be surprised to see it the default option for Fedora 25. Just know there are still some quirks, like the inability to reliably get screenshots working, which is a deal breaker for me. [0] More details in [1]. I'm sure it's available in most other big distros, too. [0] http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/fedora-24-review-the-years-best-linux-distro-is-puzzlingly-hard-to-recommend/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/fedora... [1] https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/03/04/why-wayland-anyway/ https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/03/04/why-wayland-anywa...
- josteink 10y ago
  > It's available in Fedora 24 It also was available in Fedora 23. I've used it daily, only with minor hickups. These hicksups include: - Gparted not working without some command-line initialization, etc. - Remmina remote desktop not working at all, unless built from source. All in all, for a guy like me, pretty easy to work around. The tools which needed tweaking wouldn't be the ones "your grandma" would be using anyway, so impact on a typical user would probably be low. It's not all the way there, but it's definitely ready for the "I use my laptop for web-browsing and email"-crowd.
  - cmurf 10y ago
    Substitute blivet-gui for gparted. It groks pretty much all Linux storage: MBR, GPT, mdadm and LVM raid, Btrfs, LUKS. https://github.com/rhinstaller/blivet-gui https://github.com/rhinstaller/blivet-gui http://www-rhstorage.rhcloud.com/blog/vtrefny/blivet-gui-20 http://www-rhstorage.rhcloud.com/blog/vtrefny/blivet-gui-20 Not just for servers, but quite useful on them is Cockpit which leverages storaged and libblockdev, providing a good chunk of storage configuration via web UI, among other things. https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit
  - NoGravitas 10y ago
    In Fedora 23, the default session was Gnome on X, but you could choose Gnome on Wayland. In Fedora 24, the default session is Gnome on Wayland.
    - josteink 10y ago
      Nope. Not default yet. Only GDM/lightdm/whatever runs using Wayland out of the box. The default DE is still gnome with X11. In fedora 25 (that is next release) they intend to flip the switch to Wayland though. That'll be the real test for how desktop ready it really is.
      - NoGravitas 10y ago
        Ah, my error. I've been using Wayland since 23, and saw it mentioned in the 24 release notes, and thought it had been made default.
teh 10y ago
I've been running on Wayland for a year with only minor issues. Which distro are you using?
- kochthesecond 10y ago
  Which apps and what DE do you typically use?
- chongli 10y ago
  What graphics card are you using?
emilsedgh 10y ago
We knew its going to take long. Progress is steady though. For example, KDE's Neon project [0] turned Wayland on as default [1] in developer edition. Wayland will slowly crawl into distributions near you. [0] https://neon.kde.org https://neon.kde.org [1] https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2016/09/kde-neon-devunstable-switching-to-wayland-by-default/ https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2016/09/kde-neon-devu...

It's available in Fedora 24: Fedora 24 continues to improve support for the next-generation display server, Wayland. Wayland is still not the default for Fedora 24, but it worked well enough that I would not be surprised to see it the default option for Fedora 25. Just know there are still some quirks, like the inability to reliably get screenshots working, which is a deal breaker for me. [0] More details in [1]. I'm sure it's available in most other big distros, too. [0] http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/fedora-24-review-the-years-best-linux-distro-is-puzzlingly-hard-to-recommend/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/fedora... [1] https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/03/04/why-wayland-anyway/ https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2016/03/04/why-wayland-anywa...

josteink 10y ago
> It's available in Fedora 24 It also was available in Fedora 23. I've used it daily, only with minor hickups. These hicksups include: - Gparted not working without some command-line initialization, etc. - Remmina remote desktop not working at all, unless built from source. All in all, for a guy like me, pretty easy to work around. The tools which needed tweaking wouldn't be the ones "your grandma" would be using anyway, so impact on a typical user would probably be low. It's not all the way there, but it's definitely ready for the "I use my laptop for web-browsing and email"-crowd.
- cmurf 10y ago
  Substitute blivet-gui for gparted. It groks pretty much all Linux storage: MBR, GPT, mdadm and LVM raid, Btrfs, LUKS. https://github.com/rhinstaller/blivet-gui https://github.com/rhinstaller/blivet-gui http://www-rhstorage.rhcloud.com/blog/vtrefny/blivet-gui-20 http://www-rhstorage.rhcloud.com/blog/vtrefny/blivet-gui-20 Not just for servers, but quite useful on them is Cockpit which leverages storaged and libblockdev, providing a good chunk of storage configuration via web UI, among other things. https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit
- NoGravitas 10y ago
  In Fedora 23, the default session was Gnome on X, but you could choose Gnome on Wayland. In Fedora 24, the default session is Gnome on Wayland.
  - josteink 10y ago
    Nope. Not default yet. Only GDM/lightdm/whatever runs using Wayland out of the box. The default DE is still gnome with X11. In fedora 25 (that is next release) they intend to flip the switch to Wayland though. That'll be the real test for how desktop ready it really is.
    - NoGravitas 10y ago
      Ah, my error. I've been using Wayland since 23, and saw it mentioned in the 24 release notes, and thought it had been made default.

teh 10y ago

I've been running on Wayland for a year with only minor issues. Which distro are you using?

kochthesecond 10y ago
Which apps and what DE do you typically use?
chongli 10y ago
What graphics card are you using?

emilsedgh 10y ago

We knew its going to take long. Progress is steady though. For example, KDE's Neon project [0] turned Wayland on as default [1] in developer edition. Wayland will slowly crawl into distributions near you. [0] https://neon.kde.org https://neon.kde.org [1] https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2016/09/kde-neon-devunstable-switching-to-wayland-by-default/ https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2016/09/kde-neon-devu...