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Pedestrians need to learn to expect bikes on those lanes. I don't know what they look like but they should stand out as bicycle lanes to anyone on the road. Als

Pedestrians need to learn to expect bikes on those lanes. I don't know what they look like but they should stand out as bicycle lanes to anyone on the road. Also, cyclists should be careful just like regular drivers and adjust their speed to their environment. If you were raised in The Netherlands you would know very well to check for both cars and bicycles when crossing anything.

andy_ppp 10y ago
The pedestrians along Embankment in London are usually tourists so it's difficult to train them :-D I think the signage needs to be better - or I would rather the curb on the pedestrians was raised to make them think a bit.
- ebalit 10y ago
  The best bicycle lanes I've seen are painted in green with bicycle symbols here and there. I would think it's pretty universal. I don't know how costly this solution is though.
BerislavLopac 10y ago
> I don't know what they look like Ideally like http://s3.amazonaws.com/lcc_production_bucket/files/8920/in_content.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com/lcc_production_bucket/files/8920/in_... but in many places they're more like http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/304/media/images/48375000/jpg/_48375932_img_1553.jpg http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/304/media/images/48375000/jpg...
- andy_ppp 10y ago
  Just for posterity it looks like this: http://lcc.org.uk/articles/campaign-success-cycle-superhighway-begins-to-take-shape-on-the-embankment http://lcc.org.uk/articles/campaign-success-cycle-superhighw...
- tarpherder 10y ago
  The first is pretty good I'd say. That second shot shows nicely why that particular solution doesn't work; cyclists take to the sidewalk as the road is too crowded and dangerous.
  - BerislavLopac 10y ago
    Exactly. I chose both photos carefully; the first one does look okay indeed, but note the location of the bus stop. Unfortunately pedestrians (especially tourists; we're talking about central London here) often don't realise there are fast moving vehicles on that blue strip.

andy_ppp 10y ago

The pedestrians along Embankment in London are usually tourists so it's difficult to train them :-D I think the signage needs to be better - or I would rather the curb on the pedestrians was raised to make them think a bit.

ebalit 10y ago
The best bicycle lanes I've seen are painted in green with bicycle symbols here and there. I would think it's pretty universal. I don't know how costly this solution is though.

BerislavLopac 10y ago

> I don't know what they look like Ideally like http://s3.amazonaws.com/lcc_production_bucket/files/8920/in_content.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com/lcc_production_bucket/files/8920/in_... but in many places they're more like http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/304/media/images/48375000/jpg/_48375932_img_1553.jpg http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/304/media/images/48375000/jpg...

andy_ppp 10y ago
Just for posterity it looks like this: http://lcc.org.uk/articles/campaign-success-cycle-superhighway-begins-to-take-shape-on-the-embankment http://lcc.org.uk/articles/campaign-success-cycle-superhighw...
tarpherder 10y ago
The first is pretty good I'd say. That second shot shows nicely why that particular solution doesn't work; cyclists take to the sidewalk as the road is too crowded and dangerous.
- BerislavLopac 10y ago
  Exactly. I chose both photos carefully; the first one does look okay indeed, but note the location of the bus stop. Unfortunately pedestrians (especially tourists; we're talking about central London here) often don't realise there are fast moving vehicles on that blue strip.