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I don't believe any of that (including all of it simultaneously) will be impossible on iPhone OS 4.

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jbellis 17y ago
"Notably missing? Anything for managing a conversation, like IM or Twitter, which is a big omission." http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/multitasking-comes-to-iphone-os-4-0/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/multitasking-comes-to-iph...
- glhaynes 17y ago
  The idea is to use the Push Notification Service for that. Whether that's a good solution to the problem or not is up for debate. (It works fine for me for IM; I don't know of a service that uses it to notify about Twitter events but there might be one.)
viraptor 17y ago
The way it was presented, I'm pretty sure I won't be able to run an application which should stay connected while I'm doing something else. So IRC + anything is pretty much excluded. Also skype will be integrated in a way that it takes your desktop space, instead of just being there in the background. Maybe I understood it wrong, but that was my impression from the presentation.
- ugh 17y ago
  Skype seems to work just like the normal Phone app. Watch the demo starting 22:25 (http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1004fk8d5gt/event/ http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1004fk8d5gt/event/)
  - viraptor 17y ago
    My point about skype was not that it cannot be backgrounded, but as I said "skype will be integrated in a way that it takes your desktop space". Not sure what happens when you have more accounts - if you can do that at all and if it continues adding new bars... but I prefer it completely invisible like in N900 (especially when I have 2 voip accounts and 3 more voice-capable xmpp accounts online)
    - ugh 17y ago
      I doesn’t take anything. The double high status bar is a standard UI convention of iPhone OS. It appears when something requires your interaction and is in the background (like ending the call or stopping the voice recording).
- glhaynes 17y ago
  Ah, I think you may be right about IRC. Apple continues to want such things to be done via Push Notifications. Which is a pretty good solution for most things, though not all. E.g. I do IM (Windows Live) via Meebo, an app that uses notifications, and don't have any problems with it. IRC seems like it could work pretty well through such a system, too, though I don't know if anybody offers that service. They specifically showed Skype as being able to run (continue calls or receive new ones) in the background through a very similar UI to the current built-in "Phone" app, so I think you'd be good on that one.
enjo 17y ago
Can you write an alarm clock app? I don't see any way to make that work. There is no system-level service to tie into. It seems to me that the iPhone 'multitasking' model prevents a great many use cases.
- troystribling 17y ago
  Local notifications?
  - rimantas 17y ago
    Yes, exactly.

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"Notably missing? Anything for managing a conversation, like IM or Twitter, which is a big omission." http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/multitasking-comes-to-iphone-os-4-0/ http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/multitasking-comes-to-iph...

glhaynes 17y ago
The idea is to use the Push Notification Service for that. Whether that's a good solution to the problem or not is up for debate. (It works fine for me for IM; I don't know of a service that uses it to notify about Twitter events but there might be one.)

viraptor 17y ago

The way it was presented, I'm pretty sure I won't be able to run an application which should stay connected while I'm doing something else. So IRC + anything is pretty much excluded. Also skype will be integrated in a way that it takes your desktop space, instead of just being there in the background. Maybe I understood it wrong, but that was my impression from the presentation.

ugh 17y ago
Skype seems to work just like the normal Phone app. Watch the demo starting 22:25 (http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1004fk8d5gt/event/ http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1004fk8d5gt/event/)
- viraptor 17y ago
  My point about skype was not that it cannot be backgrounded, but as I said "skype will be integrated in a way that it takes your desktop space". Not sure what happens when you have more accounts - if you can do that at all and if it continues adding new bars... but I prefer it completely invisible like in N900 (especially when I have 2 voip accounts and 3 more voice-capable xmpp accounts online)
  - ugh 17y ago
    I doesn’t take anything. The double high status bar is a standard UI convention of iPhone OS. It appears when something requires your interaction and is in the background (like ending the call or stopping the voice recording).
glhaynes 17y ago
Ah, I think you may be right about IRC. Apple continues to want such things to be done via Push Notifications. Which is a pretty good solution for most things, though not all. E.g. I do IM (Windows Live) via Meebo, an app that uses notifications, and don't have any problems with it. IRC seems like it could work pretty well through such a system, too, though I don't know if anybody offers that service. They specifically showed Skype as being able to run (continue calls or receive new ones) in the background through a very similar UI to the current built-in "Phone" app, so I think you'd be good on that one.

enjo 17y ago

Can you write an alarm clock app? I don't see any way to make that work. There is no system-level service to tie into. It seems to me that the iPhone 'multitasking' model prevents a great many use cases.

troystribling 17y ago
Local notifications?
- rimantas 17y ago
  Yes, exactly.