5 ms·

> The notion that lengthening copyright increases creativity is questionable Really, I find it blatantly disingenuous. As "IP" owner I can sit on my ass milki

> The notion that lengthening copyright increases creativity is questionable Really, I find it blatantly disingenuous. As "IP" owner I can sit on my ass milking my original creation for 90+ years or I can be "forced" to actually produce more works every 5-15 years.

praptak 17y ago
But a theoretical someone who has not yet created any intellectual "property" might get encouraged to get of his ass and write something to get profits for 90 next years, while the "mere" 5-15 years might not have that appeal. Not that I agree with the original assertion, I just think that your counterargument is a bit weak.
- trafficlight 17y ago
  Nope. A person who is a creator will build and write things regardless of the copyright protections. There is not a single person out there who is going to say, "You know, I should publish this song, but I won't because it's just going to end up in the public domain in 10 years."
  - decode 17y ago
    "A person who is a creator will build and write things regardless of the copyright protections." That's an interesting thought, but almost certainly not true. Some forms of creation require a large amount of time and effort. Some people will squeeze in time around their jobs and friends and families no matter what so that they can create. Other people will not. But even if you're right, I want some creative people to be able to create full time. If I can get twice the output from Neal Stephenson or John Darnielle or Linus Torvalds because they don't have to work a separate day job, that is a world I want to promote. This doesn't mean that copyrights should be defined the way they are, or that copyrights are even the way to achieve this world, but don't act like economic compensation for creativity isn't useful.
    - bediger 17y ago
      Sorry, but the record seems to indicate that your viewpoint, although common and valiantly expressed, is wrong: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090308/1022324034.shtml http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090308/1022324034.shtml Copyright on music got introduced part way through composer Giuseppe Verdi's career. He clearly coasted for the latter part. Want more from Stephenson or Torvalds or even Stephen King? Shorten or eliminate copyright.
- njharman 17y ago
  Yeah, cause no one ever agrees to a job unless they get a 90 year guarantee of employment. And contractors never take on gigs unless there is a we'll keep paying you for 90 years after you finished. My argument is based on reality. Yours and the Copyright Lobby is based on "magical IP land".

praptak 17y ago

But a theoretical someone who has not yet created any intellectual "property" might get encouraged to get of his ass and write something to get profits for 90 next years, while the "mere" 5-15 years might not have that appeal. Not that I agree with the original assertion, I just think that your counterargument is a bit weak.

trafficlight 17y ago
Nope. A person who is a creator will build and write things regardless of the copyright protections. There is not a single person out there who is going to say, "You know, I should publish this song, but I won't because it's just going to end up in the public domain in 10 years."
- decode 17y ago
  "A person who is a creator will build and write things regardless of the copyright protections." That's an interesting thought, but almost certainly not true. Some forms of creation require a large amount of time and effort. Some people will squeeze in time around their jobs and friends and families no matter what so that they can create. Other people will not. But even if you're right, I want some creative people to be able to create full time. If I can get twice the output from Neal Stephenson or John Darnielle or Linus Torvalds because they don't have to work a separate day job, that is a world I want to promote. This doesn't mean that copyrights should be defined the way they are, or that copyrights are even the way to achieve this world, but don't act like economic compensation for creativity isn't useful.
  - bediger 17y ago
    Sorry, but the record seems to indicate that your viewpoint, although common and valiantly expressed, is wrong: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090308/1022324034.shtml http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090308/1022324034.shtml Copyright on music got introduced part way through composer Giuseppe Verdi's career. He clearly coasted for the latter part. Want more from Stephenson or Torvalds or even Stephen King? Shorten or eliminate copyright.
njharman 17y ago
Yeah, cause no one ever agrees to a job unless they get a 90 year guarantee of employment. And contractors never take on gigs unless there is a we'll keep paying you for 90 years after you finished. My argument is based on reality. Yours and the Copyright Lobby is based on "magical IP land".