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Isn't it exactly what was Mozilla Webmaker some years ago ?

by JulienRbrt 10y ago

_1 10y ago
This one lets you do a mobile view.
- dzhiurgis 10y ago
  Which is sort of ironic given mobile Mozilla marketshare is less than IE.
  - wtbob 10y ago
    FWIW, I use Firefox on Android, and I'm extremely happy with it.
    - sgc 10y ago
      Except for when clicking on hyperlinks doesn't work until the next update!
      - kuschku 10y ago
        You do realize that that bug only was shipped in nightly, and only for 3 days, and never in the beta or release channels?
  - TheRealPomax 10y ago
    If low market share was a reason not to do something in browser-land, there would only be one browser. If anything, low market share is exactly when you should try to outdo the established competition =)
rascul 10y ago
It does seem to use a webmaker.org login
mook 10y ago
It looks like it _did_ live on Webmaker; https://thimble.webmaker.org/ https://thimble.webmaker.org/ redirects to this one. It would be nice if somebody could mention what changed on Thimble for this to come up again. (It could be that somebody who didn't know about it before just found it, which is cool too.)
keithnz 10y ago
when you sign up you get an email saying "Welcome to Mozilla Webmaker! Thank you for joining us to discover, create and share the Web. I'm looking forward to seeing what you create."
TheRealPomax 10y ago
This is the spiritual successor of that. "Webmaker" changed from a single product to "a suite of products" at the time, with this tool getting renamed to "Thimble". That thimble used Code Mirror for its editor, and only allowed you to write a single file. Since webpages aren't single files anymore, and haven't been for a while, we made a choice to try to integrate quite a few technologies (Adobe's Brackets as editor with tons of features, Filer for faking a POSIX filesystem in the browser, etc) into something that is both the same, but also a lot better, and the old Thimble got turned off (after about a year of having both up at the same time) last June.
- Achshar 10y ago
  Did you guys look into VS Code as an option for possible in-browser editors?
  - TheRealPomax 10y ago
    We didn't, mostly because VS Code didn't exist yet when we added in Brackets. It got released when we were already beta testing, and was still in extreme beta by the time we officially launched the updated tool in August 2015. It would be interesting to see how many other now-existing solutions might work for the code editor part, but at this point it would disturb quite a few people who now use Thimble in the classroom or at learn-to-code events, so while as a contributor PR it would be fantastic, we don't have the man hours to investigate a completely new code editor component (with its own UI that needs tailoring, filesystem requirements, plugin infrastructure, etc).

Isn't it exactly what was Mozilla Webmaker some years ago ?

_1 10y ago

This one lets you do a mobile view.

dzhiurgis 10y ago
Which is sort of ironic given mobile Mozilla marketshare is less than IE.
- wtbob 10y ago
  FWIW, I use Firefox on Android, and I'm extremely happy with it.
  - sgc 10y ago
    Except for when clicking on hyperlinks doesn't work until the next update!
    - kuschku 10y ago
      You do realize that that bug only was shipped in nightly, and only for 3 days, and never in the beta or release channels?
- TheRealPomax 10y ago
  If low market share was a reason not to do something in browser-land, there would only be one browser. If anything, low market share is exactly when you should try to outdo the established competition =)

rascul 10y ago

It does seem to use a webmaker.org login

mook 10y ago

It looks like it _did_ live on Webmaker; https://thimble.webmaker.org/ https://thimble.webmaker.org/ redirects to this one. It would be nice if somebody could mention what changed on Thimble for this to come up again. (It could be that somebody who didn't know about it before just found it, which is cool too.)

keithnz 10y ago

when you sign up you get an email saying "Welcome to Mozilla Webmaker! Thank you for joining us to discover, create and share the Web. I'm looking forward to seeing what you create."

TheRealPomax 10y ago

This is the spiritual successor of that. "Webmaker" changed from a single product to "a suite of products" at the time, with this tool getting renamed to "Thimble". That thimble used Code Mirror for its editor, and only allowed you to write a single file. Since webpages aren't single files anymore, and haven't been for a while, we made a choice to try to integrate quite a few technologies (Adobe's Brackets as editor with tons of features, Filer for faking a POSIX filesystem in the browser, etc) into something that is both the same, but also a lot better, and the old Thimble got turned off (after about a year of having both up at the same time) last June.

Achshar 10y ago
Did you guys look into VS Code as an option for possible in-browser editors?
- TheRealPomax 10y ago
  We didn't, mostly because VS Code didn't exist yet when we added in Brackets. It got released when we were already beta testing, and was still in extreme beta by the time we officially launched the updated tool in August 2015. It would be interesting to see how many other now-existing solutions might work for the code editor part, but at this point it would disturb quite a few people who now use Thimble in the classroom or at learn-to-code events, so while as a contributor PR it would be fantastic, we don't have the man hours to investigate a completely new code editor component (with its own UI that needs tailoring, filesystem requirements, plugin infrastructure, etc).