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Of course like you said Brendan basic values were being questioned. But I think you're taking the comment you're replying to a bit too literal. What it probably

Of course like you said Brendan basic values were being questioned. But I think you're taking the comment you're replying to a bit too literal. What it probably meant was that things besides technical points, especially interpersonal ones do actually matter. You could argue that a lot of people's basic values were compromised by Brendan Eich. And I think you're right that you should try to keep things as separate as possible. But that's never 100% possible. Underlying the technical problems there lie social ones. If you tell yourself that you're keeping things purely rational and technological you are lying to yourself. You still need to work with other people to get things done for instance. Even the GNU project is strongly occupied with moral thoughts about their definition of freedom of software. Being the greatest genius doesn't help you one bit if you can't communicate those ideas and get help spreading them.

generic_user 10y ago
> Of course like you said Brendan basic values were being questioned. > You could argue that a lot of people's basic values were compromised by Brendan Eich. This sort of highlights the irreconcilable dilemma of the claim that your basic values who ever you are and what ever your values are should be supported by a software project. That simply can not happen. Its a false statement. You either have to have one persons/groups basic values as prerequisite for participation and exclude everyone else who has different values. Or you mutually exclude personal basic values as a prerequisite and invite everyone to participate in solving the larger technological goal. What I think is being lost here, intentionally or not is the idea of mutual respect. You can have mutual respect with people you do not share common values with and still work together, share friendship and solve problems. If Open Source / Free Software, can not produce projects where people with different values can have mutual respect and compassion for one another and work together to achieve a common goal then there are serious, serious problems for FLOSS going forward.

generic_user 10y ago

> Of course like you said Brendan basic values were being questioned. > You could argue that a lot of people's basic values were compromised by Brendan Eich. This sort of highlights the irreconcilable dilemma of the claim that your basic values who ever you are and what ever your values are should be supported by a software project. That simply can not happen. Its a false statement. You either have to have one persons/groups basic values as prerequisite for participation and exclude everyone else who has different values. Or you mutually exclude personal basic values as a prerequisite and invite everyone to participate in solving the larger technological goal. What I think is being lost here, intentionally or not is the idea of mutual respect. You can have mutual respect with people you do not share common values with and still work together, share friendship and solve problems. If Open Source / Free Software, can not produce projects where people with different values can have mutual respect and compassion for one another and work together to achieve a common goal then there are serious, serious problems for FLOSS going forward.