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For me, a 7mg nicotine patch had very much the same effect as half of a 20mg (I think it was 20mg pills I had been prescribed, but it's been a few years so I'm

For me, a 7mg nicotine patch had very much the same effect as half of a 20mg (I think it was 20mg pills I had been prescribed, but it's been a few years so I'm not positive) adderall pill. The effects became very different in larger dosages, but in the smallest doses, I'm not sure I could explain or notice any difference.

robotresearcher 10y ago
Could you describe the large-dose effects of each, if you have a moment?
- proksoup 10y ago
  For me with nicotine, when I have too much I get irritable or quick to anger. With too much adderall, I'm still in a very content place, no anger, and amazingly "productive", but afterwards very dissappointed with my previous enthusiasm for what now seems in retrospect obviously not such a smart direction to be productive in.
  - JustUhThought 10y ago
    This is a golden comment. To all the folks that cry fowl to others using "smart pills", one must really take the good with the bad when it comes with Adderall. I recently did some research on Adderall, methylphenidate, modafinil, and selegiline as I'm diagnosed add-inattentive, ran out of insurance and thus medical care and scripts. I was looking for nonprescription alternatives. This is a fascinating alternative. Also, from what I learned, Adderall is a horrible substance. It's way stronger than even cocaine. I'll never touch it again, especially considering the alternatives available.
roel_v 10y ago
Did you use adderall nootropically or did (do) you have strong ADD indicators?
- proksoup 10y ago
  It's a good question, I'm not sure I could give a confident answer, as the boundary is blurry to me. I did have, for most of my life since childhood, what I would feel confident calling strong ADD indicators. The two psychiatrists I've spoken with agree with me, and while I didn't get this deep into the conversation with them, my personal feeling is that like many things it's a spectrum[1], that all humans are at least somewhere on that spectrum. I did struggle to maintain a job and a home prior to being medicated, and since have been gradually moving towards a life that's normal and happy for me. YMMV. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12518758 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12518758

robotresearcher 10y ago

Could you describe the large-dose effects of each, if you have a moment?

proksoup 10y ago
For me with nicotine, when I have too much I get irritable or quick to anger. With too much adderall, I'm still in a very content place, no anger, and amazingly "productive", but afterwards very dissappointed with my previous enthusiasm for what now seems in retrospect obviously not such a smart direction to be productive in.
- JustUhThought 10y ago
  This is a golden comment. To all the folks that cry fowl to others using "smart pills", one must really take the good with the bad when it comes with Adderall. I recently did some research on Adderall, methylphenidate, modafinil, and selegiline as I'm diagnosed add-inattentive, ran out of insurance and thus medical care and scripts. I was looking for nonprescription alternatives. This is a fascinating alternative. Also, from what I learned, Adderall is a horrible substance. It's way stronger than even cocaine. I'll never touch it again, especially considering the alternatives available.

roel_v 10y ago

Did you use adderall nootropically or did (do) you have strong ADD indicators?

proksoup 10y ago
It's a good question, I'm not sure I could give a confident answer, as the boundary is blurry to me. I did have, for most of my life since childhood, what I would feel confident calling strong ADD indicators. The two psychiatrists I've spoken with agree with me, and while I didn't get this deep into the conversation with them, my personal feeling is that like many things it's a spectrum[1], that all humans are at least somewhere on that spectrum. I did struggle to maintain a job and a home prior to being medicated, and since have been gradually moving towards a life that's normal and happy for me. YMMV. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12518758 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12518758