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Paris, like Tokyo, has sealed off / removed all public bins. I think in both cases it was fear of terror that gave the city government a good excuse to safe som

Paris, like Tokyo, has sealed off / removed all public bins. I think in both cases it was fear of terror that gave the city government a good excuse to safe some money. In Paris they solve it with lots of cleaning crews, while Japanese are so well behaved that they all bring their garbage home (or to the next convenience store).

dTal 10y ago
What an awful idea, on several levels. How can it possibly be cheaper to pay cleaning crews to pick each piece of trash off the ground individually than to pay a similar cleaning crew to empty a bin? And what of all the trash they miss - plastic wrappers and the like that blow away? Not to mention the cultural damage from tacitly encouraging littering. Oh well. At least they saved Paris from terrorist attacks /s
- m_mueller 10y ago
  I'm not of the opinion it's cheaper either, I just suspect that thinking was a driver behind the decision. I do think it has some merit in terms of anti terror measures though - it just doesn't work against terrorists who happily (in the most literal sense of that word) give their their life just to kill non believers. But these measures were taken against earlier forms of that, I think the gas attack in Tokyo metro was conducted using garbage bins.
- beanbragade 10y ago
  No, Paris happens to have cleanup crews, in addition to public garbage bins... which are contraptions which contain a clear plastic bag. They are not actually a bin/can format, and they are indeed everywhere. The fact that people in Paris litter is unreltaed to the garbage "cans" being present. It is probably somewhat related to the fact there are cleanup crews to deal with it though. Hate to think how gross Paris would be if there were no cleanup crews (would probably smell more like NYC on garbage day).

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Paris, like Tokyo, has sealed off / removed all public bins. I think in both cases it was fear of terror that gave the city government a good excuse to safe som

by m_mueller 10y ago

dTal 10y ago
What an awful idea, on several levels. How can it possibly be cheaper to pay cleaning crews to pick each piece of trash off the ground individually than to pay a similar cleaning crew to empty a bin? And what of all the trash they miss - plastic wrappers and the like that blow away? Not to mention the cultural damage from tacitly encouraging littering. Oh well. At least they saved Paris from terrorist attacks /s
- m_mueller 10y ago
  I'm not of the opinion it's cheaper either, I just suspect that thinking was a driver behind the decision. I do think it has some merit in terms of anti terror measures though - it just doesn't work against terrorists who happily (in the most literal sense of that word) give their their life just to kill non believers. But these measures were taken against earlier forms of that, I think the gas attack in Tokyo metro was conducted using garbage bins.
- beanbragade 10y ago
  No, Paris happens to have cleanup crews, in addition to public garbage bins... which are contraptions which contain a clear plastic bag. They are not actually a bin/can format, and they are indeed everywhere. The fact that people in Paris litter is unreltaed to the garbage "cans" being present. It is probably somewhat related to the fact there are cleanup crews to deal with it though. Hate to think how gross Paris would be if there were no cleanup crews (would probably smell more like NYC on garbage day).