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You might have meant sound in other apps, but the original comment that spawned this thread was "phone calls wouldn't even be top 5". I don't do any voice in fb

You might have meant sound in other apps, but the original comment that spawned this thread was "phone calls wouldn't even be top 5". I don't do any voice in fb or whatsapp. Hangouts would be about it and that's mostly from my laptop. I'm not defending the 3.5mm port removal or anything, I think it sucks. But voice chat in any form is not top 5 and probably isn't top 10 for me either. I suspect many others are similar.

chris_wot 10y ago
I'm sure others use the iPhone for things other than voice calls, but with 1 billion iPhones sold even a million people who don't make voice calls is still a tiny fraction of the market. Most people are still using their phone to make phone calls, even if you and others are not.
- Kiro 10y ago
  Yes, people are using their phones to make phone calls but I still don't think it's in the top 5. That's what this discussion is about.
  - chris_wot 10y ago
    Pew Research Center said the following in 2015: Fully 97% of smartphone owners used text messaging at least once over the course of the study period, making it the most widely-used basic feature or app; it is also the feature that is used most frequently, as the smartphone owners in this study reported having used text messaging in the past hour in an average of seven surveys (out of a maximum total of 14 across the one-week study period). Younger smartphone owners are especially avid users of text messaging, but this group has by no means abandoned voice calls — 93% of smartphone owners ages 18-29 used voice or video calling on at least one occasion during the study period, and reported doing so in an average of 3.9 surveys. http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/04/01/us-smartphone-use-in-2015/ http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/04/01/us-smartphone-use-in-2...
    - jsmeaton 10y ago
      I fear this thread is getting a little long already, but let me point you to the graph in your own link (looking at 18-29 year olds). SMS: 100% Internet: 97% Voice Calls: 93% Looking at those numbers, from an article you provided, could you imagine a fairly large portion of those users using 5 apps on their phone more than they use the phone app? That's the only argument being made here.
      - chris_wot 10y ago
        We must be looking at different graphs. It shows that text messaging, voice/video calls and email rank amongst the most popular smartphone features. And sure, if you want to restrict yourself to 18-29 year olds, possibly there is a dropoff on phone calls (though I'm still doubtful). But the market is pretty much larger than that now. http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/04/01/us-smartphone-use-in-2015/pi_2015-04-01_smartphones_21/ http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/04/01/us-smartphone-use-in-2... (kind of amusing to see all the Apple fanbois downvoting me to oblivion though - have I made you worried that I might have a point?)
        Kiro 10y ago
        I can't speak for the others but let me list some things I think we usually find in the top 5: Facebook, email, Messenger/WhatsApp/equivalent, Instagram, Snapchat, games, browser etc. The study lumps all those together which is not relevant to this discussion. The point is that people are mainly using their devices as computers, not phones. Do you disagree with this?
        chris_wot 10y ago
        I do disagree. The study might lump all the Internet apps together, but it still shows that 92% of all users used voice/video calling at least once in the survey period, whilst it shows that 89% of all users used the Internet at least once. Hence placing voice and video calls in the top 5 most used features.
        jsmeaton 10y ago

chris_wot 10y ago

I'm sure others use the iPhone for things other than voice calls, but with 1 billion iPhones sold even a million people who don't make voice calls is still a tiny fraction of the market. Most people are still using their phone to make phone calls, even if you and others are not.

Kiro 10y ago
Yes, people are using their phones to make phone calls but I still don't think it's in the top 5. That's what this discussion is about.
- chris_wot 10y ago
  Pew Research Center said the following in 2015: Fully 97% of smartphone owners used text messaging at least once over the course of the study period, making it the most widely-used basic feature or app; it is also the feature that is used most frequently, as the smartphone owners in this study reported having used text messaging in the past hour in an average of seven surveys (out of a maximum total of 14 across the one-week study period). Younger smartphone owners are especially avid users of text messaging, but this group has by no means abandoned voice calls — 93% of smartphone owners ages 18-29 used voice or video calling on at least one occasion during the study period, and reported doing so in an average of 3.9 surveys. http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/04/01/us-smartphone-use-in-2015/ http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/04/01/us-smartphone-use-in-2...
  - jsmeaton 10y ago
    I fear this thread is getting a little long already, but let me point you to the graph in your own link (looking at 18-29 year olds). SMS: 100% Internet: 97% Voice Calls: 93% Looking at those numbers, from an article you provided, could you imagine a fairly large portion of those users using 5 apps on their phone more than they use the phone app? That's the only argument being made here.
    - chris_wot 10y ago
      We must be looking at different graphs. It shows that text messaging, voice/video calls and email rank amongst the most popular smartphone features. And sure, if you want to restrict yourself to 18-29 year olds, possibly there is a dropoff on phone calls (though I'm still doubtful). But the market is pretty much larger than that now. http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/04/01/us-smartphone-use-in-2015/pi_2015-04-01_smartphones_21/ http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/04/01/us-smartphone-use-in-2... (kind of amusing to see all the Apple fanbois downvoting me to oblivion though - have I made you worried that I might have a point?)
      - Kiro 10y ago
        I can't speak for the others but let me list some things I think we usually find in the top 5: Facebook, email, Messenger/WhatsApp/equivalent, Instagram, Snapchat, games, browser etc. The study lumps all those together which is not relevant to this discussion. The point is that people are mainly using their devices as computers, not phones. Do you disagree with this?
        chris_wot 10y ago
        I do disagree. The study might lump all the Internet apps together, but it still shows that 92% of all users used voice/video calling at least once in the survey period, whilst it shows that 89% of all users used the Internet at least once. Hence placing voice and video calls in the top 5 most used features.
      - jsmeaton 10y ago