When he said 'kiddie' I interpreted his intent as saying there were insufficiently advanced or sophisticated. While on one hand I agree they are 'hardcore' lang

When he said 'kiddie' I interpreted his intent as saying there were insufficiently advanced or sophisticated. While on one hand I agree they are 'hardcore' languages (pointers, memory management, compiled, type declarations, header files, #includes, etc.) on the other there are more higher-level, more expressive, less ritualistic and verbose languages available today. I loved C and used it for many years, back when the alternatives were BASIC, Pascal, COBOL, Fortran, etc. but today when the alternatives are Python, Clojure, Haskell, etc. yes in some sense I consider C/C++/ObjC as 'kiddie' languages. Maybe 'paleo' languages would be a better term. C for OS development may still be a good choice but for applications? No way. With Apple's change to the dev license they are basically saying, "We only want you to use paleo languages. Put away your shiny modern toys and come back to the creaky past with us."