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I would have said Go rather than Scala, but now Go is pretty mainstream. I think my choice today for a Python Paradox would be Erlang or Ocaml. Ocaml + Mirage

I would have said Go rather than Scala, but now Go is pretty mainstream. I think my choice today for a Python Paradox would be Erlang or Ocaml. Ocaml + MirageOS is a system level simplification that makes application correctness/security a much more tractable task than [any other language + linux]. Erlang is the most common sense way to build resilient, distributed applications. But there is a high barrier to entry to learn both Erlang and the OTP framework that makes it useful. Having said that, I've never worked at a company where choosing Erlang or Ocaml was a possibility. I think there are companies that make bold technical choices, but I haven't had the good fortune of being given the chance to work at such a place.

sidlls 10y ago
Go is mainstream? In what universe? These are mainstream languages today: C, C++, Java, PHP, Ruby, Python, JavaScript, and C#. The vast majority of all applications written today are written using one of those languages. Go barely registers inside the Bay Area bubble, and far less outside of it. If a "Python paradox" even is a thing, Go would certainly be a candidate. I think the "Python paradox" is a silly concept, though.
- TheMagicHorsey 10y ago
  You may be right. I work in the Bay Area, and I see a lot of devops projects in Go these days. In fact, I'm hard pressed to find a new devops project that isn't in Go. But I agree that the Bay Area, and San Francisco specifically, is a bit of a bubble. So its very possible that there is little Go traction in other cities.
  - XorNot 10y ago
    Go has devops traction because of it's deployment story. It solves a bunch of problems people have with trying to use Python for the types of things you do in devops.
    - BerislavLopac 10y ago
      Such as? I'm honestly interested what problems you have in mind, not implying that they don't exit.
      - bogomipz 10y ago
        Distributing artifacts for one, a single self-contained binary in the case of Go vs a virtualenv or buildout for shipping and managing dependencies for a Python app.

sidlls 10y ago

Go is mainstream? In what universe? These are mainstream languages today: C, C++, Java, PHP, Ruby, Python, JavaScript, and C#. The vast majority of all applications written today are written using one of those languages. Go barely registers inside the Bay Area bubble, and far less outside of it. If a "Python paradox" even is a thing, Go would certainly be a candidate. I think the "Python paradox" is a silly concept, though.

TheMagicHorsey 10y ago
You may be right. I work in the Bay Area, and I see a lot of devops projects in Go these days. In fact, I'm hard pressed to find a new devops project that isn't in Go. But I agree that the Bay Area, and San Francisco specifically, is a bit of a bubble. So its very possible that there is little Go traction in other cities.
- XorNot 10y ago
  Go has devops traction because of it's deployment story. It solves a bunch of problems people have with trying to use Python for the types of things you do in devops.
  - BerislavLopac 10y ago
    Such as? I'm honestly interested what problems you have in mind, not implying that they don't exit.
    - bogomipz 10y ago
      Distributing artifacts for one, a single self-contained binary in the case of Go vs a virtualenv or buildout for shipping and managing dependencies for a Python app.