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I feel like it's about time to ditch all that accessibility stuff and join forces to create a more human screen reader. Though sadly it will be a while until w

I feel like it's about time to ditch all that accessibility stuff and join forces to create a more human screen reader. Though sadly it will be a while until we will hear: "You are visiting Hacker News, in a simple look and without any images, it features a list of links to articles and a menu at the top. Do you want me to read the articles titles, continue with accessing the menu or a more detailed description of the page?"

notatoad 10y ago
>Though sadly it will be a while until we will hear: "You are visiting Hacker News..." If you expect to accomplish that via a community effort to make tools for deaf people, you're likely right. But i bet we aren't that far away from "Hey alexa/siri/google, what are the top stories on hacker news right now?"
bramd 10y ago
> Though sadly it will be a while until we will hear: "You are visiting Hacker News, in a simple look and without any images, it features a list of links to articles and a menu at the top. Do you want me to read the articles titles, continue with accessing the menu or a more detailed description of the page?" Sadly? I strongly disagree. If all my human-computer interaction would be like communicating with Siri/Google Now (e.g. conversational), I would have ditched computers years ago. It's all about giving semantic information to screenreaders so the user can eficiently navigate that content. In the rare case that I need some kind of human description, I just share my screen with someone that has working eyeballs. FYI, I'm totally blind.
- anotheryou 10y ago
  oh, great to hear from someone actually needing this. But than I'd still argue, that semantics should be possible to parse from the style of the site. Big letters? Must be a headline. Well actually I would love html to be more to be like latex/markdown, I just thought, that if I recognize it as a list, it should be parsed by a screen reader as such too. May I ask you which screen reader you use and at what speeds? (or do you use some braille screen?)

notatoad 10y ago

>Though sadly it will be a while until we will hear: "You are visiting Hacker News..." If you expect to accomplish that via a community effort to make tools for deaf people, you're likely right. But i bet we aren't that far away from "Hey alexa/siri/google, what are the top stories on hacker news right now?"

bramd 10y ago

> Though sadly it will be a while until we will hear: "You are visiting Hacker News, in a simple look and without any images, it features a list of links to articles and a menu at the top. Do you want me to read the articles titles, continue with accessing the menu or a more detailed description of the page?" Sadly? I strongly disagree. If all my human-computer interaction would be like communicating with Siri/Google Now (e.g. conversational), I would have ditched computers years ago. It's all about giving semantic information to screenreaders so the user can eficiently navigate that content. In the rare case that I need some kind of human description, I just share my screen with someone that has working eyeballs. FYI, I'm totally blind.

anotheryou 10y ago
oh, great to hear from someone actually needing this. But than I'd still argue, that semantics should be possible to parse from the style of the site. Big letters? Must be a headline. Well actually I would love html to be more to be like latex/markdown, I just thought, that if I recognize it as a list, it should be parsed by a screen reader as such too. May I ask you which screen reader you use and at what speeds? (or do you use some braille screen?)