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> Same for all politicos. OK, so why are such articles only written for hillary? Why are you so adamantly opposed to Hillary's practices when it is so incredi

> Same for all politicos. OK, so why are such articles only written for hillary? Why are you so adamantly opposed to Hillary's practices when it is so incredibly common. How much of all this is about corruption and how much is it about bullying females?

jomamaxx 10y ago
Because Hillary Clinton: A) Is running for President B) Is married to an ex-President, and the most influential man in the world. C) Has a $500M slush-fund into which money from nefarious places is being invested - and it's not controlled by campaign spending laws. D) Money was given to her from individuals (more than 50% of them) that she was dealing with as Sec of State - which is a massive conflict of interest on it's own, and she did give many favours that we know about, and it's just the top of the iceberg. E) She was brought up in the article. F) Is probably the highest paid circuit speaker in the world, or was, up until recently. None of the above is true for anyone else. That's why. As far are your 'picking on women' bit ... oh please, this kind of argument makes my skin crawl. Corruption can't hide behind panties, at least outside of campus 'safe zones' where the facts don't matter. 'But she's a girl' is not an argument.
- tacomonstrous 10y ago
  What is this slush fund? Who gave her money when she was Sec of State? Please substantiate these assertions.
  - douche 10y ago
    The Clinton Foundation is a slush fund. I spent a higher percentage of my income on actual charity than they have in recent years.
    - saalweachter 10y ago
      You've spent over 88% of your income[1] on charity? That's awesome, keep up the good work! [1] https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-foundation/478 https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillar...
      - jomamaxx 10y ago
        Ha ha ... the Clinton Foundation is an 'operating foundation' - which means it doesn't give it's money away like other charities. So - if this was like the 'Christian Children's Fund' - than that 88% would be 88% of the money goes to Haiti or wherever, with 12% overhead. The 'Clinton Fund' doesn't give any money away, the operate their own missions and programs - meaning that - of that 88% , any amount can go to 'consultants' 'lawyers' 'research' 'friends' 'conferences' etc.. And it does. That's a lot of money to spend - and 100% of those people work directly for Clinton Corp..
  - jomamaxx 10y ago
    The Clinton Foundation is supposed to be a charity but they spend almost nothing on charity - their expenses are 'conferences', trips, meetings - basically Bill and Hillary's personal expense account for things they cannot bill to the government or some other sponsor. Also, they can make ads that promote 'narrative' and the 'personal brand' of Hillary.
    - tacomonstrous 10y ago
      Can you provide evidence for these claims?
      - leereeves 10y ago
        Ask Haitians what they think of the Clinton Foundation: > High Hopes for Hillary Clinton, Then Disappointment in Haiti http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/15/us/politics/hillary-clinton-haiti.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/15/us/politics/hillary-clinto...
        tacomonstrous 10y ago
        Can you point to the part of that article that offers any concrete evidence of wrongdoing?
        leereeves 10y ago
        > Fewer than half the jobs promised at the industrial park, built after 366 farmers were evicted from their lands, have materialized. Many millions of dollars earmarked for relief efforts have yet to be spent [six years later]. Mrs. Clinton’s brother Tony Rodham has turned up in business ventures on the island
        tacomonstrous 10y ago
        Which of those appears to be concrete proof of wrongdoing to you? Is there any evidence that her brother benefited from the Foundation's actions? All I see are insinuations.
coldtea 10y ago
>OK, so why are such articles only written for hillary? As opposed to who? Trump? Aren't enough negative articles also written for Trump? Besides he is so rich that he doesn't needed "meagre" 250K speeches to influence him -- he probably has voting favors for his business partners and his own business interests pre-planned already. >Why are you so adamantly opposed to Hillary's practices when it is so incredibly common. Because even if another 100,000 politicians do it, she's the one who'll be probably sitting in the White House... You'd rather people prioritize criticizing some second rate senator from Alabama or South Dakota, or the potential next President? >How much of all this is about corruption and how much is it about bullying females? The latter none at all? Else we'd see it for other female politicians too.
- JoeAltmaier 10y ago
  Wow that is world-class naiveté. Female politicians of every stripe are bullied daily. This is business as usual for half of our population. And its compounded by guys constantly replying "Hey it isn't happening to me; I don't see it so it must not exist".
  - leereeves 10y ago
    Clinton is being treated far more kindly than Trump.
    - JoeAltmaier 10y ago
      What universe is that happening in? There have been around 50 smoke-screen fake 'scandals' invented around Hillary in particular. None have come to anything. Millions mis-spent in tax money on what amounts to political slander.
      - leereeves 10y ago
        Such as? Hillary's emails? Potential mishandling of classified information, violations of record keeping laws, and perjury. That's significant, and has nothing to do with her gender. Which investigation do you think was mere bullying and not about something significant?

jomamaxx 10y ago

Because Hillary Clinton: A) Is running for President B) Is married to an ex-President, and the most influential man in the world. C) Has a $500M slush-fund into which money from nefarious places is being invested - and it's not controlled by campaign spending laws. D) Money was given to her from individuals (more than 50% of them) that she was dealing with as Sec of State - which is a massive conflict of interest on it's own, and she did give many favours that we know about, and it's just the top of the iceberg. E) She was brought up in the article. F) Is probably the highest paid circuit speaker in the world, or was, up until recently. None of the above is true for anyone else. That's why. As far are your 'picking on women' bit ... oh please, this kind of argument makes my skin crawl. Corruption can't hide behind panties, at least outside of campus 'safe zones' where the facts don't matter. 'But she's a girl' is not an argument.

tacomonstrous 10y ago
What is this slush fund? Who gave her money when she was Sec of State? Please substantiate these assertions.
- douche 10y ago
  The Clinton Foundation is a slush fund. I spent a higher percentage of my income on actual charity than they have in recent years.
  - saalweachter 10y ago
    You've spent over 88% of your income[1] on charity? That's awesome, keep up the good work! [1] https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-foundation/478 https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillar...
    - jomamaxx 10y ago
      Ha ha ... the Clinton Foundation is an 'operating foundation' - which means it doesn't give it's money away like other charities. So - if this was like the 'Christian Children's Fund' - than that 88% would be 88% of the money goes to Haiti or wherever, with 12% overhead. The 'Clinton Fund' doesn't give any money away, the operate their own missions and programs - meaning that - of that 88% , any amount can go to 'consultants' 'lawyers' 'research' 'friends' 'conferences' etc.. And it does. That's a lot of money to spend - and 100% of those people work directly for Clinton Corp..
- jomamaxx 10y ago
  The Clinton Foundation is supposed to be a charity but they spend almost nothing on charity - their expenses are 'conferences', trips, meetings - basically Bill and Hillary's personal expense account for things they cannot bill to the government or some other sponsor. Also, they can make ads that promote 'narrative' and the 'personal brand' of Hillary.
  - tacomonstrous 10y ago
    Can you provide evidence for these claims?
    - leereeves 10y ago
      Ask Haitians what they think of the Clinton Foundation: > High Hopes for Hillary Clinton, Then Disappointment in Haiti http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/15/us/politics/hillary-clinton-haiti.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/15/us/politics/hillary-clinto...
      - tacomonstrous 10y ago
        Can you point to the part of that article that offers any concrete evidence of wrongdoing?
        leereeves 10y ago
        > Fewer than half the jobs promised at the industrial park, built after 366 farmers were evicted from their lands, have materialized. Many millions of dollars earmarked for relief efforts have yet to be spent [six years later]. Mrs. Clinton’s brother Tony Rodham has turned up in business ventures on the island
        tacomonstrous 10y ago
        Which of those appears to be concrete proof of wrongdoing to you? Is there any evidence that her brother benefited from the Foundation's actions? All I see are insinuations.

coldtea 10y ago

>OK, so why are such articles only written for hillary? As opposed to who? Trump? Aren't enough negative articles also written for Trump? Besides he is so rich that he doesn't needed "meagre" 250K speeches to influence him -- he probably has voting favors for his business partners and his own business interests pre-planned already. >Why are you so adamantly opposed to Hillary's practices when it is so incredibly common. Because even if another 100,000 politicians do it, she's the one who'll be probably sitting in the White House... You'd rather people prioritize criticizing some second rate senator from Alabama or South Dakota, or the potential next President? >How much of all this is about corruption and how much is it about bullying females? The latter none at all? Else we'd see it for other female politicians too.

JoeAltmaier 10y ago
Wow that is world-class naiveté. Female politicians of every stripe are bullied daily. This is business as usual for half of our population. And its compounded by guys constantly replying "Hey it isn't happening to me; I don't see it so it must not exist".
- leereeves 10y ago
  Clinton is being treated far more kindly than Trump.
  - JoeAltmaier 10y ago
    What universe is that happening in? There have been around 50 smoke-screen fake 'scandals' invented around Hillary in particular. None have come to anything. Millions mis-spent in tax money on what amounts to political slander.
    - leereeves 10y ago
      Such as? Hillary's emails? Potential mishandling of classified information, violations of record keeping laws, and perjury. That's significant, and has nothing to do with her gender. Which investigation do you think was mere bullying and not about something significant?