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Is that true? I sure hope it is, but I wouldn't count on it. The vast majority of developers have been working in straight Objective-C anyway. Plus, they have

Is that true? I sure hope it is, but I wouldn't count on it. The vast majority of developers have been working in straight Objective-C anyway. Plus, they have so many apps, even if they lose a lot of their high-quality developers, that'll probably just be a tiny blip when it comes to total apps being submitted. It might take a long time to notice that the quality of apps has gone down, since it's so hard to quantify, and there no doubt will still be some quality apps. And them noticing quickly is what we need so that they'll reverse this rule.

elblanco 17y ago
I'm not sure that the "quality" of the majority of the apps in the app store is very high anyway. There are certainly high quality apps, and I'd bet dollars to donuts that they are written in one of the approved languages. But the reason the iPhone became popular is not because there was a very high quality app version of wolfram alpha or a gold game, but because there were reasonably good quality apps (at a good price) that scratched relatively small, (dare I say it?) long tail, itches. You can be relatively sure as a new iPhone owner that you'll be able to find your fishing lure guide app, or your app to order emergency socks or whatever. I'm willing to bet that lots of those apps were not written in one of the approved national languages of the Union of Soviet Apple Orchards.
plinkplonk 17y ago
"Plus, they have so many apps, even if they lose a lot of their high-quality developers, that'll probably just be a tiny blip when it comes to total apps being submitted. " This was true when an exodus from Windows started. Windows still has a lot of committed talented developers, but it is also true that a lot of developers moved away from Windows and it hurt them long term. "It might take a long time to notice that the quality of apps has gone down, since it's so hard to quantify, and there no doubt will still be some quality apps. And them noticing quickly is what we need so that they'll reverse this rule." I personally would hope that Apple does not change this rule for years (and add more dickhead rules) till a more open/dev friendly competitor has sucked up all the devs who move away and achieves critical mass. Don't distract your opponents (and evil people in general) when they are doing something stupid.
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flyosity 17y ago
The highest quality apps in the App Store are being written using Xcode & C/Objective-C. The biggest app development shops working on the biggest and most popular iPhone apps are using Objective-C and Cocoa frameworks, not any kind of meta-platform. Users won't see any loss of quality, none whatsoever.
- bad_user 17y ago
  There are hundreds of games in the App Store built with Unity, including at least one in top 10. You can be sure that if Unity games are taken out of the app store, people will notice. Which just shows that some people go to great lengths to explain Apple's anti-competitive behavior ... "it's OK, it doesn't affect me" ... maybe not in the short term.
utunga 17y ago
It's certainly true of one developer .. I'm a C# developer who was about to buy a Macbook Pro specifically so I could target/port an app to run on iPhone (was just waiting on the refresh). This is the last straw as far as I'm concerned... So yes, one less developer for iPhone (except as a web platform, if they are lucky). Also one less MacBook pro sale for Apple (probably, because I'm so steamed about this.. though .. heh, maybe lets see how the refresh looks next week and then we'll see)

elblanco 17y ago

I'm not sure that the "quality" of the majority of the apps in the app store is very high anyway. There are certainly high quality apps, and I'd bet dollars to donuts that they are written in one of the approved languages. But the reason the iPhone became popular is not because there was a very high quality app version of wolfram alpha or a gold game, but because there were reasonably good quality apps (at a good price) that scratched relatively small, (dare I say it?) long tail, itches. You can be relatively sure as a new iPhone owner that you'll be able to find your fishing lure guide app, or your app to order emergency socks or whatever. I'm willing to bet that lots of those apps were not written in one of the approved national languages of the Union of Soviet Apple Orchards.

plinkplonk 17y ago

"Plus, they have so many apps, even if they lose a lot of their high-quality developers, that'll probably just be a tiny blip when it comes to total apps being submitted. " This was true when an exodus from Windows started. Windows still has a lot of committed talented developers, but it is also true that a lot of developers moved away from Windows and it hurt them long term. "It might take a long time to notice that the quality of apps has gone down, since it's so hard to quantify, and there no doubt will still be some quality apps. And them noticing quickly is what we need so that they'll reverse this rule." I personally would hope that Apple does not change this rule for years (and add more dickhead rules) till a more open/dev friendly competitor has sucked up all the devs who move away and achieves critical mass. Don't distract your opponents (and evil people in general) when they are doing something stupid.

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flyosity 17y ago

The highest quality apps in the App Store are being written using Xcode & C/Objective-C. The biggest app development shops working on the biggest and most popular iPhone apps are using Objective-C and Cocoa frameworks, not any kind of meta-platform. Users won't see any loss of quality, none whatsoever.

bad_user 17y ago
There are hundreds of games in the App Store built with Unity, including at least one in top 10. You can be sure that if Unity games are taken out of the app store, people will notice. Which just shows that some people go to great lengths to explain Apple's anti-competitive behavior ... "it's OK, it doesn't affect me" ... maybe not in the short term.

utunga 17y ago

It's certainly true of one developer .. I'm a C# developer who was about to buy a Macbook Pro specifically so I could target/port an app to run on iPhone (was just waiting on the refresh). This is the last straw as far as I'm concerned... So yes, one less developer for iPhone (except as a web platform, if they are lucky). Also one less MacBook pro sale for Apple (probably, because I'm so steamed about this.. though .. heh, maybe lets see how the refresh looks next week and then we'll see)