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I always wondered how he got that site running in the first place. I had my own similar "dumb idea" that I created: http://www.ipaidthemost.com http://www.ipai

I always wondered how he got that site running in the first place. I had my own similar "dumb idea" that I created: http://www.ipaidthemost.com http://www.ipaidthemost.com, but I have no idea how to get it out in front of people, even though folks tend to react well enough when I show it to them.

LanceH 10y ago
I feel the same way about the kind of art that "a 7 year old could do". The part I admire is their ability to get funding.
- SixSigma 10y ago
  I think the success of some naïve art is the audacity of the person making it. "I could have done that" "Yes, you could, but you didn't" http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Kk-61u6leYU/UrB3Cfg6x1I/AAAAAAAAEOo/fp3MMElQJrI/s1600/art.png http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Kk-61u6leYU/UrB3Cfg6x1I/AAAAAAAAEO...
  - burkaman 10y ago
    This explanation of modern art never makes any sense. "I could have done that" "Yes, you could, but you didn't" "Yeah, exactly, why would I? Why would anyone? Why do you like this? Why did you pay for it?" Somebody who doesn't understand the point of a piece of art is not going to be impressed by the bravery of the artist for publishing it.
  - danenania 10y ago
    I don't think it's just audacity--there are people all over the world doing unique, audacious, amazing things every day, and an incredibly small percentage get much attention at all. The people getting lots of attention are, with few exceptions, either leveraging an influential personal network that was built up over a period of years, working very hard at marketing and promotion, and/or spending money to get that attention. As far as I can tell, this seems to be as true in the art world as it is in tech. "Yes, you could, but you didn't." should really be: "Yes, you could, but no one would pay any attention because you don't know the right people, and even if you did, you don't know how to frame a few colored squares on a giant canvas as artistically important."
  - Bakary 10y ago
    Since there is a saturation of media and different art forms I don't think any piece can even be audacious anymore.
olalonde 10y ago
The novelty of the idea helped a lot.
diggan 10y ago
Kind of similar to (WARNING, play load music on load) https://highscore.money/ https://highscore.money/ that is just a list of people. Seems to highscore.money was popular because of the network of the creator https://twitter.com/marckohlbrugge https://twitter.com/marckohlbrugge Maybe ask him for advice.
symkat 10y ago
Putting it on Hacker News helps, I just posted a message =)
- DanHulton 10y ago
  I just saw. Thanks! Nice site, by the way.
vnglst 10y ago
I had a similar "dumb" 1 million dollar idea, but with a emoji money and a Twitter bot called Terence: https://twitter.com/helpterence https://twitter.com/helpterence Sofar he has raised almost 8000, but I'm also looking for a way to get it out there!
- GuiA 10y ago
  Love silly twitter bots like that. This is adorable!
  - vnglst 10y ago
    Thanks, I appreciate it!! They're a lot of fun to create as well, you never know how people are going to interact with them. And I really hope that some day Terence's campaign really takes off without me really noticing it.
    - taftster 10y ago
      What's the story behind the staying low from the "twitter police"? https://twitter.com/helpterence/status/774672966961561600 https://twitter.com/helpterence/status/774672966961561600
      - vnglst 10y ago
        Twitter is pretty strict when it comes to bots and apparently they didn't like Terence's behavior(automatic following, lots of similar replies) and his tweets were no longer showing up in peoples timelines (replies).
Diederich 10y ago
Awesome! (: https://web.archive.org/web/20140310144412/http://ipaidthemost.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20140310144412/http://ipaidthemo...
- DanHulton 10y ago
  You can actually link right to the individual entries from the site: http://www.ipaidthemost.com/history/32 http://www.ipaidthemost.com/history/32 (Go to history in the dropdown, then click on the entry in question.)
  - Diederich 10y ago
    Cool, thanks. It goes to show that when I'm thinking about a website, I go very quickly to Internet Archive to check out its past, often before even reading much into the web site.
DanHulton 10y ago
Whoever "Kev" is, I gotta say: I like your dedication. =3
saddestcatever 10y ago
There needs to be a shock value. And associated number. Imagine of: "Best 15 cents I've ever spent. So, anyone want to chat?" showed how many views/impressions/clicks. You're following the classic "Chalkboard in a Bar" where you can leave a message for a dollar -> users will do that, since they can see the 50 people that they are paying to reach.
oxguy3 10y ago
Neat site. I may or may not have attempted an XSS attack (which did work on the Confirm page, but not the homepage).
- DanHulton 10y ago
  I saw that and smiled. Panicked for a second, since this is old code in a dead framework, but thankfully the framework creators were smarter enough to cover for me. =3

LanceH 10y ago

I feel the same way about the kind of art that "a 7 year old could do". The part I admire is their ability to get funding.

SixSigma 10y ago
I think the success of some naïve art is the audacity of the person making it. "I could have done that" "Yes, you could, but you didn't" http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Kk-61u6leYU/UrB3Cfg6x1I/AAAAAAAAEOo/fp3MMElQJrI/s1600/art.png http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Kk-61u6leYU/UrB3Cfg6x1I/AAAAAAAAEO...
- burkaman 10y ago
  This explanation of modern art never makes any sense. "I could have done that" "Yes, you could, but you didn't" "Yeah, exactly, why would I? Why would anyone? Why do you like this? Why did you pay for it?" Somebody who doesn't understand the point of a piece of art is not going to be impressed by the bravery of the artist for publishing it.
- danenania 10y ago
  I don't think it's just audacity--there are people all over the world doing unique, audacious, amazing things every day, and an incredibly small percentage get much attention at all. The people getting lots of attention are, with few exceptions, either leveraging an influential personal network that was built up over a period of years, working very hard at marketing and promotion, and/or spending money to get that attention. As far as I can tell, this seems to be as true in the art world as it is in tech. "Yes, you could, but you didn't." should really be: "Yes, you could, but no one would pay any attention because you don't know the right people, and even if you did, you don't know how to frame a few colored squares on a giant canvas as artistically important."
- Bakary 10y ago
  Since there is a saturation of media and different art forms I don't think any piece can even be audacious anymore.

olalonde 10y ago

The novelty of the idea helped a lot.

diggan 10y ago

Kind of similar to (WARNING, play load music on load) https://highscore.money/ https://highscore.money/ that is just a list of people. Seems to highscore.money was popular because of the network of the creator https://twitter.com/marckohlbrugge https://twitter.com/marckohlbrugge Maybe ask him for advice.

symkat 10y ago

Putting it on Hacker News helps, I just posted a message =)

DanHulton 10y ago
I just saw. Thanks! Nice site, by the way.

vnglst 10y ago

I had a similar "dumb" 1 million dollar idea, but with a emoji money and a Twitter bot called Terence: https://twitter.com/helpterence https://twitter.com/helpterence Sofar he has raised almost 8000, but I'm also looking for a way to get it out there!

GuiA 10y ago
Love silly twitter bots like that. This is adorable!
- vnglst 10y ago
  Thanks, I appreciate it!! They're a lot of fun to create as well, you never know how people are going to interact with them. And I really hope that some day Terence's campaign really takes off without me really noticing it.
  - taftster 10y ago
    What's the story behind the staying low from the "twitter police"? https://twitter.com/helpterence/status/774672966961561600 https://twitter.com/helpterence/status/774672966961561600
    - vnglst 10y ago
      Twitter is pretty strict when it comes to bots and apparently they didn't like Terence's behavior(automatic following, lots of similar replies) and his tweets were no longer showing up in peoples timelines (replies).

Diederich 10y ago

Awesome! (: https://web.archive.org/web/20140310144412/http://ipaidthemost.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20140310144412/http://ipaidthemo...

DanHulton 10y ago
You can actually link right to the individual entries from the site: http://www.ipaidthemost.com/history/32 http://www.ipaidthemost.com/history/32 (Go to history in the dropdown, then click on the entry in question.)
- Diederich 10y ago
  Cool, thanks. It goes to show that when I'm thinking about a website, I go very quickly to Internet Archive to check out its past, often before even reading much into the web site.

DanHulton 10y ago

Whoever "Kev" is, I gotta say: I like your dedication. =3

saddestcatever 10y ago

There needs to be a shock value. And associated number. Imagine of: "Best 15 cents I've ever spent. So, anyone want to chat?" showed how many views/impressions/clicks. You're following the classic "Chalkboard in a Bar" where you can leave a message for a dollar -> users will do that, since they can see the 50 people that they are paying to reach.

oxguy3 10y ago

Neat site. I may or may not have attempted an XSS attack (which did work on the Confirm page, but not the homepage).

DanHulton 10y ago
I saw that and smiled. Panicked for a second, since this is old code in a dead framework, but thankfully the framework creators were smarter enough to cover for me. =3