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I have always thought a good book (probably a novelty but whatever) would be how to prepare for prison. For example what sort of physical training + psychologic

by agentgt 10y ago

I have always thought a good book (probably a novelty but whatever) would be how to prepare for prison. For example what sort of physical training + psychological training + diet would be optimal. What sort of defense training would you study. Where would you put some if any remaining assets. For example before going you might want to gain as much weight as possible (who cares about looking attractive). Generally more weight will increase strength regardless if it is fat (although muscle would be better). Or maybe gaining a lot of weight is a bad idea... don't know but I am curious.

gaius 10y ago
It exists: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/no-weights-no-limits-an-interview-with-paul-wade.html http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/no-weights-no-limits-an-inte...
- agentgt 10y ago
  This seems to cover a small part of it. Also I don't know much about prison but I assume inmates have access to weights (or maybe that is just a hollywood stereotype that I have picked up). I suppose though while you are in jail if you aren't bailed out you can do weightless training. I would imagine forearm training would be critical since grappling is so important in self defense. This could be tricky if there are no bars to hang from. I'm thinking the best training is probably fairly similar to football training... get big, fast, and strong. I'm just not sure gymnastic like training will do that (particularly as you gain weight that sort of training becomes fairly difficult). Thus from my limited knowledge... I would probably do a ton of power cleans, power presses, and sand bag grabbing. Maybe some farmer walks. Probably no dead lifts while in prison though since that would just sap you and leave you weak for attacks. Maybe deadlifts prior to going in.
  - gaius 10y ago
    No, weights were banned in American prisons years ago. If you can do one-arm pressups and pullups - which Wade's training leads up to - you will be stronger than 99% of people who train with weights anyway.
    - agentgt 10y ago
      Ahh.. figured it was hollywood bull$hit. It seems like every movie still has dudes lifting weights in a court yard. I have no doubt about doing one arm pullups making you strong. I just recently accomplished this myself but I had to loose a ton of weight to do so (from 198 -> 168). When I lost the weight I got a lot weaker and less powerful (albeit I certainly look better). I have feeling my old fat self could take more physical abuse.
      - feklar 10y ago
        Some state prisons still allow weight stacks, they post their weight lifting competitions on youtube all the time (illegally, not sure how prisoners get phones). Here's some guy in a no weight stack prison, with a contraband phone showing off his exercise routine (and pics of the homemade water weights) https://youtu.be/WLmDkcb6JQE https://youtu.be/WLmDkcb6JQE
        coldtea 10y ago
        >illegally, not sure how prisoners get phones From guards making a quick buck?
    - deftnerd 10y ago
      I was in prison when I had just turned 18, back in the late 90's. Inmates just made their own weights using a few layers of trash bags filled with water. Prisons are full of very clever hacks borne by necessity.
      - coldtea 10y ago
        True. Actually there was an exhibition I saw once, with inventions, or rather, stuff made in prisons. It had from DIY tatoo kits to radios and all kinds of stuff done with whatever was available. (Hmm, could be related to this: http://temporaryservices.org/served/projects-by-name/prisoners-inventions/recreated-inventions/ http://temporaryservices.org/served/projects-by-name/prisone... ).
    - 10y ago
ThinkingGuy 10y ago
Behind Bars: Surviving Prison, by Jeffrey Ian Ross, comes pretty close, though it focuses more on adjusting to the institutional rules and social norms of prison culture. (I did buy this as novelty, not because I was expecting to go to prison :) http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/behind-bars-phd-jef-ross-jeffrey-ian/1111638389 http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/behind-bars-phd-jef-ross-jef...
feklar 10y ago
There are "Prison Consultants" that exist for this. Besides survival their main avenue of expertise is how to influence the decision on where you will be sent and/or transfer to your prison of choice. Madoff hired a consultant which is why he's teaching economics classes at a minimum security trustee camp right now instead of letting the system just send him anywhere.
coldtea 10y ago
>I have always thought a good book (probably a novelty but whatever) would be how to prepare for prison. For example what sort of physical training + psychological training + diet would be optimal. What sort of defense training would you study. Where would you put some if any remaining assets. Yeah, but thieves and burglars would just steal it.

by agentgt 10y ago

gaius 10y ago

It exists: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/no-weights-no-limits-an-interview-with-paul-wade.html http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/no-weights-no-limits-an-inte...

agentgt 10y ago
This seems to cover a small part of it. Also I don't know much about prison but I assume inmates have access to weights (or maybe that is just a hollywood stereotype that I have picked up). I suppose though while you are in jail if you aren't bailed out you can do weightless training. I would imagine forearm training would be critical since grappling is so important in self defense. This could be tricky if there are no bars to hang from. I'm thinking the best training is probably fairly similar to football training... get big, fast, and strong. I'm just not sure gymnastic like training will do that (particularly as you gain weight that sort of training becomes fairly difficult). Thus from my limited knowledge... I would probably do a ton of power cleans, power presses, and sand bag grabbing. Maybe some farmer walks. Probably no dead lifts while in prison though since that would just sap you and leave you weak for attacks. Maybe deadlifts prior to going in.
- gaius 10y ago
  No, weights were banned in American prisons years ago. If you can do one-arm pressups and pullups - which Wade's training leads up to - you will be stronger than 99% of people who train with weights anyway.
  - agentgt 10y ago
    Ahh.. figured it was hollywood bull$hit. It seems like every movie still has dudes lifting weights in a court yard. I have no doubt about doing one arm pullups making you strong. I just recently accomplished this myself but I had to loose a ton of weight to do so (from 198 -> 168). When I lost the weight I got a lot weaker and less powerful (albeit I certainly look better). I have feeling my old fat self could take more physical abuse.
    - feklar 10y ago
      Some state prisons still allow weight stacks, they post their weight lifting competitions on youtube all the time (illegally, not sure how prisoners get phones). Here's some guy in a no weight stack prison, with a contraband phone showing off his exercise routine (and pics of the homemade water weights) https://youtu.be/WLmDkcb6JQE https://youtu.be/WLmDkcb6JQE
      - coldtea 10y ago
        >illegally, not sure how prisoners get phones From guards making a quick buck?
  - deftnerd 10y ago
    I was in prison when I had just turned 18, back in the late 90's. Inmates just made their own weights using a few layers of trash bags filled with water. Prisons are full of very clever hacks borne by necessity.
    - coldtea 10y ago
      True. Actually there was an exhibition I saw once, with inventions, or rather, stuff made in prisons. It had from DIY tatoo kits to radios and all kinds of stuff done with whatever was available. (Hmm, could be related to this: http://temporaryservices.org/served/projects-by-name/prisoners-inventions/recreated-inventions/ http://temporaryservices.org/served/projects-by-name/prisone... ).
  - 10y ago

ThinkingGuy 10y ago

Behind Bars: Surviving Prison, by Jeffrey Ian Ross, comes pretty close, though it focuses more on adjusting to the institutional rules and social norms of prison culture. (I did buy this as novelty, not because I was expecting to go to prison :) http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/behind-bars-phd-jef-ross-jeffrey-ian/1111638389 http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/behind-bars-phd-jef-ross-jef...

feklar 10y ago

There are "Prison Consultants" that exist for this. Besides survival their main avenue of expertise is how to influence the decision on where you will be sent and/or transfer to your prison of choice. Madoff hired a consultant which is why he's teaching economics classes at a minimum security trustee camp right now instead of letting the system just send him anywhere.

coldtea 10y ago

>I have always thought a good book (probably a novelty but whatever) would be how to prepare for prison. For example what sort of physical training + psychological training + diet would be optimal. What sort of defense training would you study. Where would you put some if any remaining assets. Yeah, but thieves and burglars would just steal it.