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What about the dignity of the two girls? They're not worth anything?

sgift 10y ago
If the prosecution values their dignity so much it is free to do the interview per video or by going to London and finish this thing. The options are there, they just have to use them.
- notahacker 10y ago
  How do they "finish the thing" by being unable to complete the arrest because he's sitting on foreign territory? Particularly when the Ecuadorean embassy keeps throwing curve balls by blocking requests and insisting on asking the questions themselves.
  - k1m 10y ago
    By going to him, which they have been happy to do in many other cases, and have finally agreed to do in this case after the UN criticised the way they have treated him.
    - notahacker 10y ago
      Do you honestly believe both that there will be no further objections by Ecuadorian embassy staff and that Assange will agree to walk out of the embassy after the questions are asked and Sweden is allowed to charge him on October 17th? If not, how can you possibly claim that Sweden have been offered an opportunity to "finish it"?
- gambiting 10y ago
  Or try him in absentia. But clearly, they don't care enough.
nicky0 10y ago
They were 26 and 31 years old. Women, not girls.
Nokinside 10y ago
Dignity of the two girls is not involved because they did not report being raped or molested despite what the news say. Ms. Ardin hosted Assange six days after the alleged incident and threw party for him. Ms. Wilen and Assange separated in good mood afterwards and had breakfast together. They went to police in order to persuade him to be tested for sexually transmitted diseases and after the police said they cold not do such thing they basically asked the police "if they could have been raped or molested" without never reporting rape or molestation. In the prosecutors report girls describe sex as unpleasant and that they did not like it. Under Swedish law police and the prosecution are required to register and prosecute all possible rape offenses of which they become aware. Prosecutors even dropped the case once. As far as I understand, this is just procedural limbo. Swedish prosecutors are required to continue with hearing and Assange is freaked out of his mind because the case is so absurd. I don't agree with those who claim that Swedish rape laws are bad, but I think they are very different from other countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#/media/File:Rape_rate_per_100,000_-_country_comparison_-_United_Nations_2012.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#/media/File:Ra...
- wallace_f 10y ago
  This comment should really be further towards the top to make it more visible. Unfortunately, due to the media people now associate Assange with "rape." I grew up thinking rape meant something completely different than whatever happened here, be it, at the worst, what sounds like unpleasant and regrettable consensual sex.
wallace_f 10y ago
Of course is matters but as others have already commented the case against Assange is very fishy smelling.

sgift 10y ago

If the prosecution values their dignity so much it is free to do the interview per video or by going to London and finish this thing. The options are there, they just have to use them.

notahacker 10y ago
How do they "finish the thing" by being unable to complete the arrest because he's sitting on foreign territory? Particularly when the Ecuadorean embassy keeps throwing curve balls by blocking requests and insisting on asking the questions themselves.
- k1m 10y ago
  By going to him, which they have been happy to do in many other cases, and have finally agreed to do in this case after the UN criticised the way they have treated him.
  - notahacker 10y ago
    Do you honestly believe both that there will be no further objections by Ecuadorian embassy staff and that Assange will agree to walk out of the embassy after the questions are asked and Sweden is allowed to charge him on October 17th? If not, how can you possibly claim that Sweden have been offered an opportunity to "finish it"?
gambiting 10y ago
Or try him in absentia. But clearly, they don't care enough.

nicky0 10y ago

They were 26 and 31 years old. Women, not girls.

Nokinside 10y ago

Dignity of the two girls is not involved because they did not report being raped or molested despite what the news say. Ms. Ardin hosted Assange six days after the alleged incident and threw party for him. Ms. Wilen and Assange separated in good mood afterwards and had breakfast together. They went to police in order to persuade him to be tested for sexually transmitted diseases and after the police said they cold not do such thing they basically asked the police "if they could have been raped or molested" without never reporting rape or molestation. In the prosecutors report girls describe sex as unpleasant and that they did not like it. Under Swedish law police and the prosecution are required to register and prosecute all possible rape offenses of which they become aware. Prosecutors even dropped the case once. As far as I understand, this is just procedural limbo. Swedish prosecutors are required to continue with hearing and Assange is freaked out of his mind because the case is so absurd. I don't agree with those who claim that Swedish rape laws are bad, but I think they are very different from other countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#/media/File:Rape_rate_per_100,000_-_country_comparison_-_United_Nations_2012.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#/media/File:Ra...

wallace_f 10y ago
This comment should really be further towards the top to make it more visible. Unfortunately, due to the media people now associate Assange with "rape." I grew up thinking rape meant something completely different than whatever happened here, be it, at the worst, what sounds like unpleasant and regrettable consensual sex.

wallace_f 10y ago

Of course is matters but as others have already commented the case against Assange is very fishy smelling.