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> I've watched React Router grow from one-of-a-handful-of-experimental-routers-for-React-on-GitHub to the most well-known third-party library in the React ecosy

by n0us 10y ago

> I've watched React Router grow from one-of-a-handful-of-experimental-routers-for-React-on-GitHub to the most well-known third-party library in the React ecosystem > Libraries that experiment with their APIs, like React Router and React Motion, help all of us understand how to wield React better If I read this correctly, you believe that it is still in experimental phase? I don't have any problem with people learning and experimenting, but using major release versions a your petri dish is obnoxious for all the thousands of people using react-router even if it is convenient for the core maintainers. There is a difference between an upgrade and an overhaul, with the extent of the changes over V2,3,4 they might as well have just released a completely new routing library or just maintained an experimental branch to figure out what actually works before releasing a series of major breaking changes in quick succession to the greater world. I'm aware that breaking changes are necessary sometimes, but rapid churn is not necessary, esp once you are post 1.0 release. If there were some burning reason to release an upgrade then that would make sense but this release does not even address some of my major pain points with the API. I also am not complaining about the cost and personally I don't see any validity in the "it's free so I am beyond reproach" mentality that open source people seem to have. What makes you think that I would thank someone for something that was free even if I didn't want it? Or that anyone would for that matter. Thanking people regardless of what they did, just because they did it for free, is one way to erase market signals which govern the direction of open source projects. I would rather just be candid and honest so that maybe people will remember that me and other devs in general are negatively impacted by breaking changes and therefore will consider keeping projects stable. I also didn't "try to embarrass the creators" and the only person on here to made this personal was you, who decided to name the maintainers by first name.

ctvo 10y ago
Or you could just not use it, or follow your original thought and fork it and maintain the older version. It's MIT licensed, so you're more than welcome to do whatever you want. Instead of doing any of the things that'd require work (like the creators did), you insult them. They must be oblivious or awful at software, right? > The huge change is because the maintainers are apparently unwilling or incapable of either A. Creating something good enough on the first, second, or third attempt, or B. are completely oblivious to the needs of devs trying to create practical software and don't understand that project stability is just as important as a good API.
felipellrocha 10y ago
> personally I don't see any validity in the "it's free so I am beyond reproach" mentality that open source people seem to have. What makes you think that I would thank someone for something that was free even if I didn't want it? Or that anyone would for that matter. Thanking people regardless of what they did, just because they did it for free, is one way to erase market signals which govern the direction of open source projects. Damn. Most of the time people follow their reasoning with, "I am paying for this, so do the stuff I want exactly how I want." But, This is the first time I've seen someone using the free-market to excuse being a dick to someone who's giving their work out to the world for free. The amount of entitlement mentality in this person is so unreal, I'm literally almost exploding in rage here, because I can't believe anyone would treat anyone else like that. To the maintainers: 99.999% of people out there are not like this person, and we appreciate your work very much. Thanks for putting that work out there. Your effort is also unreal, but a kind version of unreal!

by n0us 10y ago

ctvo 10y ago

Or you could just not use it, or follow your original thought and fork it and maintain the older version. It's MIT licensed, so you're more than welcome to do whatever you want. Instead of doing any of the things that'd require work (like the creators did), you insult them. They must be oblivious or awful at software, right? > The huge change is because the maintainers are apparently unwilling or incapable of either A. Creating something good enough on the first, second, or third attempt, or B. are completely oblivious to the needs of devs trying to create practical software and don't understand that project stability is just as important as a good API.

felipellrocha 10y ago

> personally I don't see any validity in the "it's free so I am beyond reproach" mentality that open source people seem to have. What makes you think that I would thank someone for something that was free even if I didn't want it? Or that anyone would for that matter. Thanking people regardless of what they did, just because they did it for free, is one way to erase market signals which govern the direction of open source projects. Damn. Most of the time people follow their reasoning with, "I am paying for this, so do the stuff I want exactly how I want." But, This is the first time I've seen someone using the free-market to excuse being a dick to someone who's giving their work out to the world for free. The amount of entitlement mentality in this person is so unreal, I'm literally almost exploding in rage here, because I can't believe anyone would treat anyone else like that. To the maintainers: 99.999% of people out there are not like this person, and we appreciate your work very much. Thanks for putting that work out there. Your effort is also unreal, but a kind version of unreal!