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This is sad in many ways. I can understand that Leah and others would've suffered a lot of anguish and frustration because of a set of actions and decisions by
by newscracker 10y ago
This is sad in many ways. I can understand that Leah and others would've suffered a lot of anguish and frustration because of a set of actions and decisions by some people/office of/in FSF. The frustration would've been like, "Who needs more of this discrimination since there's already so much to deal with in society?"
Without the entire context and all the back stories of the different sides, this looks like a blanket accusation on the entire FSF/GNU community with a similar punishment, which, ironically, is exactly what some majority groups do for classes like LGBT, people of color and other oppressed groups - try to paint everyone with the same brush and attempt to banish them from their world on this basis. I personally don't think this is very helpful to all involved, concerned and affected.
I strongly feel FSF ought to do the following:
1. Analyze what happened in a neutral way (as objective as possible).
2. Provide an explanation, a polite and calm one, on this matter without blaming Leah or others who're in the affected group.
3. If the findings on the firing of the person show damning evidence of discrimination, then take appropriate action against the specific people involved.
4. Commit to making the environment more open and transparent so that such drastic actions wouldn't be necessary to draw attention in the future.
Silence on the part of FSF will only help make stronger the impression that the accusations are pervasive in it, and could trigger more of such reactions from other people/groups involved with FSF.
- akerro 10y agoThat thread doesn't prove anything, no links, no other threads mentioned, no verification, we don't know who was fired from FSF, no justification or anything. Instead author of the email started it with quickly made decision to leave GNU, crying, showing their lack of professionalism to at least give them a try to justify their decision on public forum, ends the thread with fuck FSF, and "fuck GNU" in commit message. How can this be taken seriously? 4chan trolls behave the same way. I expected much more from people behind libreboot (, FSF and GNU). https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreboot/2016-09/msg00038.html https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreboot/2016-09/msg0003... https://notabug.org/vimuser/libreboot/commit/b204a20ba79830188695b61ab899dd45f8b009ef https://notabug.org/vimuser/libreboot/commit/b204a20ba798301...
- newscracker 10y agoWith the passage of time and after reading more from different parties, I wanted to add this as a reply to my previous comment. There are now statements from FSF [1] and libreboot. [2] And of course, there are longer discussions on other forums. I don't see any hope for reconciliation or redemption here. It's not clear (at least to me) if this issue was raised internally before the public departure of the project from FSF/GNU. Further messages and statements from Leah don't seem helpful, and are actually reducing empathy from others. After reading all the mails on that thread so far (and the statements), I'm of the opinion that FSF, as an entire organization, is being unfairly targeted, and that Leah could do a lot better by talking to people privately and waiting for a few days before posting anything in a burst of anger. Given a chance, time has a way of changing perspectives and seeing different ways to approach issues. [1]: https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-statement https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-statement [2]: https://libreboot.org/gnu/ https://libreboot.org/gnu/