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You are being attacked?

by Retra 10y ago

samstave 10y ago
Aggressively debated then :-) I dont give a shit - but jesus, one quotes another from memory and shitstorm ensues... :) Whatever.
- fsloth 10y ago
  No one is attacking you personally. A lot of people read HN for insightful or evidence backed commentary and the voting mechanism is there to maintain this quality. No one can quote your story and retain any credibility -to a third party relating your story sounds like this: "A dude in a web discussion forum claimed that a man who, based on his childhood memories, was a CEO at Alcor, said that...". It has degenerated to a gossip - something that is readily available elswhere. High quality diacussion, on the other hand, is hard to come by. It's okay to relate anecdotal experience - some these type of comments are really good - but the style in the comment should then reflect the fact that the claim cannot be validated in any concrete way.
  - samstave 10y ago
    Totally valid statement! I haven't been claiming otherwise. I proved who I was talking about, I stand by my statement and I believe that some HNers are dicks, period.
    - fsloth 10y ago
      "I proved who I was talking about," No, you did not 'prove' with any value of proof anyone else here would recognize. None of us can know did that conversation happen, if it did, were they serious or joking,etc etc. There is no way any sensible person could integrate this into their theory of the world. Basically, unless you can provide evidence that is well known/scientifically rigorous/would hold in the court of law, what you wrote, is hearsay. You can stand by your statement - no one is claiming you to be a liar. But claiming fluoridation of water is just some nefarious big-corp scheme is, to put it mildy, extraordinary. Given the prevalence of anti-vaxxers and other crazies in the mainstream outlets I can only imagine the toleration level for unscientific gossip on public health matters is really low. Calm down dude, no need to get personal on people.
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You are being attacked?

by Retra 10y ago

You are being attacked?

Aggressively debated then :-) I dont give a shit - but jesus, one quotes another from memory and shitstorm ensues... :) Whatever.

fsloth 10y ago
No one is attacking you personally. A lot of people read HN for insightful or evidence backed commentary and the voting mechanism is there to maintain this quality. No one can quote your story and retain any credibility -to a third party relating your story sounds like this: "A dude in a web discussion forum claimed that a man who, based on his childhood memories, was a CEO at Alcor, said that...". It has degenerated to a gossip - something that is readily available elswhere. High quality diacussion, on the other hand, is hard to come by. It's okay to relate anecdotal experience - some these type of comments are really good - but the style in the comment should then reflect the fact that the claim cannot be validated in any concrete way.
- samstave 10y ago
  Totally valid statement! I haven't been claiming otherwise. I proved who I was talking about, I stand by my statement and I believe that some HNers are dicks, period.
  - fsloth 10y ago
    "I proved who I was talking about," No, you did not 'prove' with any value of proof anyone else here would recognize. None of us can know did that conversation happen, if it did, were they serious or joking,etc etc. There is no way any sensible person could integrate this into their theory of the world. Basically, unless you can provide evidence that is well known/scientifically rigorous/would hold in the court of law, what you wrote, is hearsay. You can stand by your statement - no one is claiming you to be a liar. But claiming fluoridation of water is just some nefarious big-corp scheme is, to put it mildy, extraordinary. Given the prevalence of anti-vaxxers and other crazies in the mainstream outlets I can only imagine the toleration level for unscientific gossip on public health matters is really low. Calm down dude, no need to get personal on people.
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