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While we're on the topic can anyone recommend a system for rolling out (Java) applications across server farms that doesn't use containers? We have a bunch of s

by rb808 10y ago

While we're on the topic can anyone recommend a system for rolling out (Java) applications across server farms that doesn't use containers? We have a bunch of shell scripts that are pretty horrible. We could containerize, but we dont need that right now.

doublerebel 10y ago
Distelli. It'll be a direct translation of your shell scripts to their format. I've had a great experience with them.
tdurden 10y ago
Ansible. It isn't perfect, but is far better than shell scripts for application deployment.
- kkirsche 10y ago
  This is what I use. Other players include Puppet, Salt, and Chef
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andrenth 10y ago
I haven't used it, but Nomad has specific support for Java apps.
- abrookewood 10y ago
  From their site: Nomad has extensible support for task drivers, allowing it to run containerized, virtualized, and standalone applications. Users can easily start Docker containers, VMs, or application runtimes like Java.
  - andrenth 10y ago
    The Java driver is documented here: https://www.nomadproject.io/docs/drivers/java.html https://www.nomadproject.io/docs/drivers/java.html
manveru 10y ago
NixOps?
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lostpixel 10y ago
I know it's counter to your question, but it really is quite trivial to containerise a java app, for example: FROM openjdk:8u92-jdk-alpine COPY file.jar file.jar CMD java -Duser.timezone=UTC -cp file.jar com.foo and to stay on-topic, you can run java apps in mesos without a docker wrapper :)
colemickens 10y ago
I don't get it. Containerizing your apps will help with many things including reliable rollouts. It's trivial to containerize a Java app. Do you just not want to learn about containers? Using a container orchestrator for deployment is pretty much better than using a CM tool in every way... and it's certainly better than trying to half-ass one with bash scripts.
- noselasd 10y ago
  It is not always trivial to get buy in from your manager to shift your entire datacenter to running docker, or db admins, or the other dev teams, nor might it be trivial to tell the ops guys to go figure out how to run it. If you are all of the above yourself - tings are much easier

by rb808 10y ago

doublerebel 10y ago

Distelli. It'll be a direct translation of your shell scripts to their format. I've had a great experience with them.

tdurden 10y ago

Ansible. It isn't perfect, but is far better than shell scripts for application deployment.

kkirsche 10y ago
This is what I use. Other players include Puppet, Salt, and Chef

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andrenth 10y ago

I haven't used it, but Nomad has specific support for Java apps.

abrookewood 10y ago
From their site: Nomad has extensible support for task drivers, allowing it to run containerized, virtualized, and standalone applications. Users can easily start Docker containers, VMs, or application runtimes like Java.
- andrenth 10y ago
  The Java driver is documented here: https://www.nomadproject.io/docs/drivers/java.html https://www.nomadproject.io/docs/drivers/java.html

manveru 10y ago

NixOps?

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lostpixel 10y ago

I know it's counter to your question, but it really is quite trivial to containerise a java app, for example: FROM openjdk:8u92-jdk-alpine COPY file.jar file.jar CMD java -Duser.timezone=UTC -cp file.jar com.foo and to stay on-topic, you can run java apps in mesos without a docker wrapper :)

colemickens 10y ago

I don't get it. Containerizing your apps will help with many things including reliable rollouts. It's trivial to containerize a Java app. Do you just not want to learn about containers? Using a container orchestrator for deployment is pretty much better than using a CM tool in every way... and it's certainly better than trying to half-ass one with bash scripts.

noselasd 10y ago
It is not always trivial to get buy in from your manager to shift your entire datacenter to running docker, or db admins, or the other dev teams, nor might it be trivial to tell the ops guys to go figure out how to run it. If you are all of the above yourself - tings are much easier