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Question - given that they've condemned you to an awful carrier-grade-NAT, do they at least support IPv6? I'm of the opinion that this is probably the future f

Question - given that they've condemned you to an awful carrier-grade-NAT, do they at least support IPv6? I'm of the opinion that this is probably the future for all residential internet users - ISPs that put everyone on an IPv4 NAT so that grandma can still get her hotmail and yahoo, while hopefully providing unencumbered IPv6 access for everything else that requires a real network connection.

zigzigzag 10y ago
That's the world I'm in. Carrier NAT for IPv4, fully working routable IPv6 as designed. Unfortunately this still screws me over because nobody who I might want to connect to my home network has IPv6 yet.
- subway 10y ago
  You might be surprised how much of your traffic already goes over ipv6. Much of your Google and Facebook traffic, for instance.
  - danieldk 10y ago
    But then a lot of software still only supports IPv4, e.g. Dropbox or Resilio Sync. In the latter case that gives me some serious headaches, it has the tendency to open a lot of connections at once. I think my ISPs DS-Lite uses some quota, because when I have sync open on more than a certain number of devices, IPv4 connections start getting dropped and IPv4 is basically unusable for 5-10 minutes. I am pretty sure it's related to DS-Lite, because it doesn't happen to devices that are connected to a VPN. It would help me a lot if all (mostly proprietary) software vendors would finally start supporting IPv6.
  - zigzigzag 10y ago
    Sure but that's all outbound. What matters to me more is what can connect inbound e.g. p2p apps and most of them do not really do ipv6
vertex-four 10y ago
AAISP and Sky are the only two ISPs to provide IPv6 in the UK. BT Consumer have been promising it "real soon now" for the last few years, and the rest of the ISPs are sitting on their hands.
- Alphasite_ 10y ago
  BT already has a limited IPv6 rollout in progress[1], but the hardwares a big limiting factor (the early hubs definitely cannot manage it). [1] http://arstechnica.co.uk/information-technology/2016/08/sky-will-push-all-subscribers-onto-ipv6-network-by-summer-2016/ http://arstechnica.co.uk/information-technology/2016/08/sky-...
- zeristor 10y ago
  And Zen Internet
  - nvarsj 10y ago
    Yep Zen is great! That's where I got my /29 from. They also fix issues very quickly - when netalyzr complained that my ISP couldn't handle fragmented udp packets, I let them know and they fixed it within a few days.
- therealidiot 10y ago
  I was pleasantly surprised when I was given a global IPv6 address at my parents house (where they use Sky). I had no idea they'd already managed to do it, and was expecting them to drag their feet for as long as possible.
  - gsnedders 10y ago
    AFAIK, Sky has rolled out IPv6 to all staff now. Except, well, it's enabled at a cabinet level (AIUI) so everyone served by the same cabinet has IPv6 now.
    - jburgess777 10y ago
mordae 10y ago
Some ISPs provide /64 per household. Ugh.

zigzigzag 10y ago

That's the world I'm in. Carrier NAT for IPv4, fully working routable IPv6 as designed. Unfortunately this still screws me over because nobody who I might want to connect to my home network has IPv6 yet.

subway 10y ago
You might be surprised how much of your traffic already goes over ipv6. Much of your Google and Facebook traffic, for instance.
- danieldk 10y ago
  But then a lot of software still only supports IPv4, e.g. Dropbox or Resilio Sync. In the latter case that gives me some serious headaches, it has the tendency to open a lot of connections at once. I think my ISPs DS-Lite uses some quota, because when I have sync open on more than a certain number of devices, IPv4 connections start getting dropped and IPv4 is basically unusable for 5-10 minutes. I am pretty sure it's related to DS-Lite, because it doesn't happen to devices that are connected to a VPN. It would help me a lot if all (mostly proprietary) software vendors would finally start supporting IPv6.
- zigzigzag 10y ago
  Sure but that's all outbound. What matters to me more is what can connect inbound e.g. p2p apps and most of them do not really do ipv6

vertex-four 10y ago

AAISP and Sky are the only two ISPs to provide IPv6 in the UK. BT Consumer have been promising it "real soon now" for the last few years, and the rest of the ISPs are sitting on their hands.

Alphasite_ 10y ago
BT already has a limited IPv6 rollout in progress[1], but the hardwares a big limiting factor (the early hubs definitely cannot manage it). [1] http://arstechnica.co.uk/information-technology/2016/08/sky-will-push-all-subscribers-onto-ipv6-network-by-summer-2016/ http://arstechnica.co.uk/information-technology/2016/08/sky-...
zeristor 10y ago
And Zen Internet
- nvarsj 10y ago
  Yep Zen is great! That's where I got my /29 from. They also fix issues very quickly - when netalyzr complained that my ISP couldn't handle fragmented udp packets, I let them know and they fixed it within a few days.
therealidiot 10y ago
I was pleasantly surprised when I was given a global IPv6 address at my parents house (where they use Sky). I had no idea they'd already managed to do it, and was expecting them to drag their feet for as long as possible.
- gsnedders 10y ago
  AFAIK, Sky has rolled out IPv6 to all staff now. Except, well, it's enabled at a cabinet level (AIUI) so everyone served by the same cabinet has IPv6 now.
  - jburgess777 10y ago

mordae 10y ago

Some ISPs provide /64 per household. Ugh.