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Say hello to the new boss, same as the old boss. The corporate pissing matches have started in earnest... When Alan Kay said Apple would take over the world w

by ezy 17y ago

Say hello to the new boss, same as the old boss. The corporate pissing matches have started in earnest... When Alan Kay said Apple would take over the world with an iPad, I don't think he realized that eToys or anything like eToys would never be allowed to run on the device and that a majority of the apps will probably have commercial spots embedded within them. Actually it reminds me of "educational" tv all over again... I'm starting to see the point of people who complain about the consume vs. create nature of the iPad...

ptomato 17y ago
"a majority of the apps will probably have commercial spots embedded within them" The majority of apps on the app store already do. Free apps, ad-supported. Apple just wants the ads to not suck so much, but hey, nobody has to use iAds.
- telemachos 17y ago
  but hey, nobody has to use iAds Yet.
  - ptomato 17y ago
    Well, Steve did flat-out say in the Q&A session today that they weren't going to require anyone to use their built-in services for any of that, and Apple doesn't really have a history of changing what they've said they're gonna do.
    - telemachos 17y ago
      I don't know one way or the other about their history of going back on direct claims, and that would be a pretty sprawling area to get real data on. But they certainly do have a history of locking the phone OS down more and more and controlling it further and further. I really wouldn't put it past them, and I think today's a bad to err on the side of "things won't change."
    - bitwize 17y ago
      "Your contract when you buy the iPad is you're going to watch the spots. I guess there's a cetain allowance for people going to the bathroom..."
- ibsulon 17y ago
  ...until Apple changes its mind.
dejb 17y ago
> Say hello to the new boss, same as the old boss Who do you mean by this? Microsoft doesn't make sense in this context.

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Say hello to the new boss, same as the old boss. The corporate pissing matches have started in earnest... When Alan Kay said Apple would take over the world w

by ezy 17y ago

ptomato 17y ago
"a majority of the apps will probably have commercial spots embedded within them" The majority of apps on the app store already do. Free apps, ad-supported. Apple just wants the ads to not suck so much, but hey, nobody has to use iAds.
- telemachos 17y ago
  but hey, nobody has to use iAds Yet.
  - ptomato 17y ago
    Well, Steve did flat-out say in the Q&A session today that they weren't going to require anyone to use their built-in services for any of that, and Apple doesn't really have a history of changing what they've said they're gonna do.
    - telemachos 17y ago
      I don't know one way or the other about their history of going back on direct claims, and that would be a pretty sprawling area to get real data on. But they certainly do have a history of locking the phone OS down more and more and controlling it further and further. I really wouldn't put it past them, and I think today's a bad to err on the side of "things won't change."
    - bitwize 17y ago
      "Your contract when you buy the iPad is you're going to watch the spots. I guess there's a cetain allowance for people going to the bathroom..."
- ibsulon 17y ago
  ...until Apple changes its mind.
dejb 17y ago
> Say hello to the new boss, same as the old boss Who do you mean by this? Microsoft doesn't make sense in this context.