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>> Personally, I dislike places where people are provincial and close-minded, so I'll stick to the rural countryside and leave SF to the bigots. >I visit some
by bdavisx 10y ago
>> Personally, I dislike places where people are provincial and close-minded, so I'll stick to the rural countryside and leave SF to the bigots.
>I visit some of those places and many have a beautiful setting, everyone knows each other, there is a sense of a community. It is quiet.
Depending on what part of the country you're talking about, many of those beautiful small communities are very bigoted also -- and not just in the South.
- rdtsc 10y agoAgreed. That's a good point. Quite often poverty makes the situation worse, it radicalizes people and enhances the bigotry.
- bovermyer 10y agoPoverty isn't tied directly to bigotry. Rather, a lack of new ideas and mindsets in close proximity can present an environment conducive to the development of bigotry (or its less malicious cousin, ignorance).
- dsfyu404ed 10y agoBelieving that no matter how bad your life is you're still better than someone else by virtue of race becomes more tempting the closer you are to rock bottom.
- bovermyer 10y agoWhat data are you basing this claim on?
- rdtsc 10y agoWell that disagrees with what I have seen. You can say it is correlation and that those are somehow born with the biggot gene can't escape poverty. I think it works the other way, poverty amplifies and accentuates biggotry, rasim, sexims and any other -ism. This is based on living in other countries, mostly in US though, in both poor and rich communities, some were diverse poor and diverse rich.
- bovermyer 10y agoAnecdotal evidence is a poor basis for an argument.
- commandar 10y agoAnd the south isn't bigoted in the ways many people assume. There are absolutely small towns where open discrimination is a problem. And there are absolutely small minded jerks that have a problem with people of color. But what I've observed personally living in the south and travelling the country is that the south is often less functionally segregated than other areas of the country. It's sheer demographics if nothing else; when the population of many major southern cities are majority minority, then it's difficult for people to avoid living and working next to each other. Where the dynamic gets really interesting because of all this is with people that want to fight inequality, but don't realize that they have a massive blindspot when it comes to what functional racism looks like because they don't actually live in functionally diverse environments.
- serge2k 10y ago> And the south isn't bigoted in the ways many people assume Is it "assuming" when you base your opinion on things said by federal courts?
- pessimizer 10y agoI'm from Chicago, which isn't a small town and isn't in the south, and the federal courts have had plenty to say. What have the federal courts had to say about every small town in the south again?
- chetanahuja 10y ago"And the south isn't bigoted in the ways many people assume." Only if there was some sort of a "survey" on people's attitudes in different parts of the country. Perhaps people with competing ideologies would represent one side or another and then the general public would decide to pick one of those choices to represent the majority view from that area. This way we'd actually know what a majority of the population in a given state/region believes. Of course it would suck for the reputation of a certain part of the country where bigoted, white supremacist people keep getting the majority votes year after year, decade after decade. But I guess that reputation would be well deserved if those representatives keep winning so consistently for so long a time.
- pessimizer 10y agoThis entire subthread is just stereotype bingo. Small communities are numerous and diverse.