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I have to agree with you. HTML5, CSS3, and Javascript have matured to the point where they are very powerful and flexible. I don't always see the point of over

• skhavari 10y ago
  Yes, they are very powerful and flexible. These frameworks actually payoff and simplify once your project grows beyond a particular size.
  • officialchicken 10y ago
    > once your project grows beyond "Premature optimization is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth
• hatsix 10y ago
  I recently built a small three 'page' game for a trade-show booth. By using Ember, I was able to: try out a new CSS framework based on flexbox, save data to localstorage, capture images from the webcam, have 'data binding' of variables so that they updated on the page when I changed them, and deploy to surge.sh in the first hour. All-told, it took 20 hours, 7 of which was me getting used to the intricacies of developing a full-screen "App" (no scrolling) with flexbox and implementing the designs. I'm good with vanilla JS, but there's no way I could have done all of the coding (three 'game' pages, three 'admin' pages) in less than two days. I guess the point is, a framework that you know and are familiar with can halve the time you spend on a project. I find that to be especially true with Ember because of the CLI tools and all of the various addons.