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It's like the penny-arcade dkwolf joke over again. Or the spiderwoman crawling pose. From the article feels like they were joking about everyone getting raped,

It's like the penny-arcade dkwolf joke over again. Or the spiderwoman crawling pose. From the article feels like they were joking about everyone getting raped, including men. Anyway, rape is a serious crime, no doubt about that and the joke might have crossed a line. But were do we draw a line by getting offended or not? These lines are pushed further out every time and sometimes limiting freedoms. Also, men can be sexist, that's true, but we are still in a position where women have an advantage, a powerful tool to call out someone being sexist and inconsiderate and get that said person into trouble and brand him so his future prospects are completely destroyed. Is being offended about a joke enough to cripple someones future and life? Looks like men always have to be extra careful about what they say and what they do. I wonder when this whole gender gap won't spill over to become from a male dominant society to a female dominant one. It's hard to find equal grounds apparently.

eli 10y ago
Rape jokes should not be told at work, period.
- MrLeftHand 10y ago
  Rape goes both ways. Men and women can get raped. Someone telling rape jokes can be disgusting and inappropriate, but it will stay as a joke. Agree, a workplace is not a good place to tell these. In fact there might not be a good place for it. Also, if we go further down the rabbit hole and say that rape jokes promote rape, then we can start saying that video games promote violence, etc... My concern is to have someone getting fired or prosecuted for a joke. Getting his career broken because of a stupid joke. You can feel disgusted or even violated, but with the counter actions you can do more damage to the other person compared to the one you received.
  - GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
    If you don't want to get fired for making a rape joke at work, there's a pretty easy solution to that. (Spoiler: it's "don't make a rape joke at work.")
    - MrLeftHand 10y ago
      Ah, now you ruined it for me. I was just in the middle of telling one to everyone.
daughart 10y ago
Why not just hold your tongue instead of saying a joke about rape? Doesn't really seem like that much of a limitation of your freedom, and it might really have a positive impact on someone who has been through a terrible and traumatic experience. Doesn't really seem like not joking about rape is pushing the line out too far.
- MrLeftHand 10y ago
  The article doesn't say she was a victim of rape, or not. I can understand victims feeling violated by rape jokes. That's no laughing matter. Rape jokes aren't nice and can be rude. I don't want tell rape jokes and neither should anyone, but context does matter. Penny-Arcade's d__kwolf joke (which I was referring to) wasn't actually a rape joke. The act of rape was just a part of it. It was the crime that was overlooked by the hero because he already finished a quest not related to the crime. Even with the plea of the people, he didn't care about the crime and did nothing to help. And it still was considered offensive because having a reference to rape, whilst it wasn't promoting it in any shape or form. For me it wasn't a rape joke, because the main target of the joke wasn't the rape, but the behavior of the main character ignoring people in need because of his selfish acts. This is actually a common thing when you play an RPG games, where you have to decide which quests you're going to take. And on the top of that the person pleading for help was an actually a man. So it wasn't even painting women as being rape victims. Now the joke in this issue was about rape. Rape was the main theme, but there was no actual target. There was no reference to gender. The joke was gender neutral. It was still in bad taste and shouldn't have been said. But in the end it was picked up by one individual and made it into a big issue. This is the problem of painting the act of rape to be against just one gender. I agree there are more rape victims of women then men. But rape is gender neutral. Everyone can be a rape victim regardless of their gender. I'm not a promoting rape jokes. I'm against harsh punishments for things that clearly are minor offences, like a joke with no actual target. Also read my other reply. I hope that clarifies my stand on this. Rape jokes are bad. Harsh punishments for a bad jokes are worse. These issues just widen the gap between genders and not close it.

eli 10y ago

Rape jokes should not be told at work, period.

MrLeftHand 10y ago
Rape goes both ways. Men and women can get raped. Someone telling rape jokes can be disgusting and inappropriate, but it will stay as a joke. Agree, a workplace is not a good place to tell these. In fact there might not be a good place for it. Also, if we go further down the rabbit hole and say that rape jokes promote rape, then we can start saying that video games promote violence, etc... My concern is to have someone getting fired or prosecuted for a joke. Getting his career broken because of a stupid joke. You can feel disgusted or even violated, but with the counter actions you can do more damage to the other person compared to the one you received.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
  If you don't want to get fired for making a rape joke at work, there's a pretty easy solution to that. (Spoiler: it's "don't make a rape joke at work.")
  - MrLeftHand 10y ago
    Ah, now you ruined it for me. I was just in the middle of telling one to everyone.

daughart 10y ago

Why not just hold your tongue instead of saying a joke about rape? Doesn't really seem like that much of a limitation of your freedom, and it might really have a positive impact on someone who has been through a terrible and traumatic experience. Doesn't really seem like not joking about rape is pushing the line out too far.

MrLeftHand 10y ago
The article doesn't say she was a victim of rape, or not. I can understand victims feeling violated by rape jokes. That's no laughing matter. Rape jokes aren't nice and can be rude. I don't want tell rape jokes and neither should anyone, but context does matter. Penny-Arcade's d__kwolf joke (which I was referring to) wasn't actually a rape joke. The act of rape was just a part of it. It was the crime that was overlooked by the hero because he already finished a quest not related to the crime. Even with the plea of the people, he didn't care about the crime and did nothing to help. And it still was considered offensive because having a reference to rape, whilst it wasn't promoting it in any shape or form. For me it wasn't a rape joke, because the main target of the joke wasn't the rape, but the behavior of the main character ignoring people in need because of his selfish acts. This is actually a common thing when you play an RPG games, where you have to decide which quests you're going to take. And on the top of that the person pleading for help was an actually a man. So it wasn't even painting women as being rape victims. Now the joke in this issue was about rape. Rape was the main theme, but there was no actual target. There was no reference to gender. The joke was gender neutral. It was still in bad taste and shouldn't have been said. But in the end it was picked up by one individual and made it into a big issue. This is the problem of painting the act of rape to be against just one gender. I agree there are more rape victims of women then men. But rape is gender neutral. Everyone can be a rape victim regardless of their gender. I'm not a promoting rape jokes. I'm against harsh punishments for things that clearly are minor offences, like a joke with no actual target. Also read my other reply. I hope that clarifies my stand on this. Rape jokes are bad. Harsh punishments for a bad jokes are worse. These issues just widen the gap between genders and not close it.