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I use the headphone jack fairly often, but I'm fine with them removing it. I seem to buy new semi-expensive headphones every other year, and if my next purchas

I use the headphone jack fairly often, but I'm fine with them removing it. I seem to buy new semi-expensive headphones every other year, and if my next purchase must be a pair of wireless ones, so be it. I don't get all the angst over this. If you have a set of wired headphones that are irreplaceable to you, get an adapter. If not, get a set of new ones.

UVB-76 10y ago
The 3.5mm port on the MacBook Pro is not just for headphones. It doubles as an S/PDIF connector for outputting digital optical audio, so can be used to feed external DACs or other audio equipment with lossless audio. I don't want to have to carry around a bag full of adapters for my laptop to be useful, just for the sake of making the machine a couple of millimetres thinner.
- adamlett 10y ago
  If there is not already a cable you can buy with lightning at one end and whatever is needed to connect to your audio equipment at the other end, surely it is only a matter of time before there is.
- joeevans1000 10y ago
  Removing this port doesn't allow for a thinner laptop.
  - UVB-76 10y ago
    As per the iPhone 7, removing the 3.5mm port would free up a fair amount of internal space, which could be used for other purposes, and ultimately contribute to making the laptop thinner.
driverdan 10y ago
> I seem to buy new semi-expensive headphones every other year Why? Good headphones last tens of years. The alternative to a headphone jack is not wireless. Bluetooth audio and having more unnecessary batteries to charge suck. The alternative is a USB DAC + amp you can use with any standard pair of headphones.
- Anderkent 10y ago
  Cable wear, probably. I've replaced the cable in my AKG k702s four times since I bought them in march 2014. So about twice a year.
  - AstralStorm 10y ago
    You know, you could just pay a technician 20 bucks, a good headphone cable (whatever Sennheiser uses in top lines) and get it replaced. It is quite easy.
    - Anderkent 10y ago
      Yeah, I replace cables (the AKGs are detachable, which is nice, but for my ATH m50s I just soldered them on myself). But many people can't be bothered
- eddieh 10y ago
  10 years! I wish. I buy $300+ headphones and tend to thrash them from constant use. I buy new headphones at least once every few years.
- adamlett 10y ago
  Why? Sometimes they break, by wear or by accident. Other times I find that I made a mistake in buying them because they are uncomfortable or badly designed (chord too long, clicker placed so low I can't use it if I'm wearing a coat). I don't buy new headphones every other year as a matter of principle. It just seems to have been the case for a good number of years. Good headphones last tens of years. You must use yours differently than I. Or the ones you buy are more than just semi-expensive.

UVB-76 10y ago

The 3.5mm port on the MacBook Pro is not just for headphones. It doubles as an S/PDIF connector for outputting digital optical audio, so can be used to feed external DACs or other audio equipment with lossless audio. I don't want to have to carry around a bag full of adapters for my laptop to be useful, just for the sake of making the machine a couple of millimetres thinner.

adamlett 10y ago
If there is not already a cable you can buy with lightning at one end and whatever is needed to connect to your audio equipment at the other end, surely it is only a matter of time before there is.
joeevans1000 10y ago
Removing this port doesn't allow for a thinner laptop.
- UVB-76 10y ago
  As per the iPhone 7, removing the 3.5mm port would free up a fair amount of internal space, which could be used for other purposes, and ultimately contribute to making the laptop thinner.

driverdan 10y ago

> I seem to buy new semi-expensive headphones every other year Why? Good headphones last tens of years. The alternative to a headphone jack is not wireless. Bluetooth audio and having more unnecessary batteries to charge suck. The alternative is a USB DAC + amp you can use with any standard pair of headphones.

Anderkent 10y ago
Cable wear, probably. I've replaced the cable in my AKG k702s four times since I bought them in march 2014. So about twice a year.
- AstralStorm 10y ago
  You know, you could just pay a technician 20 bucks, a good headphone cable (whatever Sennheiser uses in top lines) and get it replaced. It is quite easy.
  - Anderkent 10y ago
    Yeah, I replace cables (the AKGs are detachable, which is nice, but for my ATH m50s I just soldered them on myself). But many people can't be bothered
eddieh 10y ago
10 years! I wish. I buy $300+ headphones and tend to thrash them from constant use. I buy new headphones at least once every few years.
adamlett 10y ago
Why? Sometimes they break, by wear or by accident. Other times I find that I made a mistake in buying them because they are uncomfortable or badly designed (chord too long, clicker placed so low I can't use it if I'm wearing a coat). I don't buy new headphones every other year as a matter of principle. It just seems to have been the case for a good number of years. Good headphones last tens of years. You must use yours differently than I. Or the ones you buy are more than just semi-expensive.