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They say its because of hardware limitations but I smell a rat. I have a jailbroken 3G with 'MusicControls' and it allows me to background pandora just fine.

by bshep 17y ago

They say its because of hardware limitations but I smell a rat. I have a jailbroken 3G with 'MusicControls' and it allows me to background pandora just fine. This is just a way of forcing people to upgrade to the latest non-jailbreakable hardware.

waterlesscloud 17y ago
no doubt the iPad has the same "hardware limitations"?
- tptacek 17y ago
  No, the iPad gets multitasking in the Fall.
tptacek 17y ago
They care about the end user experience. They don't care at all about what you've managed to get working on a jailbroken phone. My take is that they decided the experience wouldn't be good on the 3G. (They were emphatic about this point in Q&A). Either way, it's irrelevant. I didn't buy my 3G in the anticipation of having multitasking. I bought it because I wanted what it was then. I'm upgrade-eligible soon enough, and happy to have a reason to buy a 4th-gen iPhone.
- bshep 17y ago
  It works perfectly, it even shows the artwork in the lockscreen just like the ipod app does, something I didnt see in Apple's version of multitasking. I also want a 4th Gen iPhone but not if its not jailbreak-able, there are too many missing features that can only be enabled by jailbreaking.
  - tptacek 17y ago
    I'm not a jailbreaker (I want my iPhone to work. All the time.) But I don't begrudge you your jailbreak or your opinion. I'm just reacting to the implication that there is something shady about them not giving the 3G a feature.
    - bshep 17y ago
      The have done this before, when MMS came out they did not include it for 2G phones when they are perfectly capable of sending MMS. Someone else pointed out that in the case of multitasking they cannot guarantee that a 3G can handle the general case, that may be true, we shall have to wait and see.
  - ubernostrum 17y ago
    As has been noted many times, the plural of "anecdote" is not "data". Or more succinctly: "I was able to make it work on my jailbroken phone" does not imply "it would work well enough consistently enough to make the broader market happy".
ynniv 17y ago
The 3GS has twice as much memory. It's taken Apple years to iron this out, and they have historically made features available on older hardware, so my bet is that 128Meg isn't enough to support common usage of this feature. It's possible that OS4 uses more memory itself.
- ROFISH 17y ago
  This is especially true when the iPhoneOS has typically used around 100MB since the beginning. 28MB is not much to keep multiple apps around.
cstejerean 17y ago
In what way is the 3GS non-jailbreakable?
- bshep 17y ago
  It's jailbreakable but its a tethered jailbreak, which is not very useful... Imagine having to reboot your phone when you dont have access to your laptop ==> No phone till you get home. If an un-tethered jailbreak becomes avaiable I would upgrade in a heart-beat.
bmj 17y ago
This is just a way of forcing people to upgrade to the latest non-jailbreakable hardware. "Forcing" only if those users actually want multi-tasking. I'm guessing a large percentage of the user base won't covet this feature.

by bshep 17y ago

waterlesscloud 17y ago

no doubt the iPad has the same "hardware limitations"?

tptacek 17y ago
No, the iPad gets multitasking in the Fall.

tptacek 17y ago

They care about the end user experience. They don't care at all about what you've managed to get working on a jailbroken phone. My take is that they decided the experience wouldn't be good on the 3G. (They were emphatic about this point in Q&A). Either way, it's irrelevant. I didn't buy my 3G in the anticipation of having multitasking. I bought it because I wanted what it was then. I'm upgrade-eligible soon enough, and happy to have a reason to buy a 4th-gen iPhone.

bshep 17y ago
It works perfectly, it even shows the artwork in the lockscreen just like the ipod app does, something I didnt see in Apple's version of multitasking. I also want a 4th Gen iPhone but not if its not jailbreak-able, there are too many missing features that can only be enabled by jailbreaking.
- tptacek 17y ago
  I'm not a jailbreaker (I want my iPhone to work. All the time.) But I don't begrudge you your jailbreak or your opinion. I'm just reacting to the implication that there is something shady about them not giving the 3G a feature.
  - bshep 17y ago
    The have done this before, when MMS came out they did not include it for 2G phones when they are perfectly capable of sending MMS. Someone else pointed out that in the case of multitasking they cannot guarantee that a 3G can handle the general case, that may be true, we shall have to wait and see.
- ubernostrum 17y ago
  As has been noted many times, the plural of "anecdote" is not "data". Or more succinctly: "I was able to make it work on my jailbroken phone" does not imply "it would work well enough consistently enough to make the broader market happy".

ynniv 17y ago

The 3GS has twice as much memory. It's taken Apple years to iron this out, and they have historically made features available on older hardware, so my bet is that 128Meg isn't enough to support common usage of this feature. It's possible that OS4 uses more memory itself.

ROFISH 17y ago
This is especially true when the iPhoneOS has typically used around 100MB since the beginning. 28MB is not much to keep multiple apps around.

cstejerean 17y ago

In what way is the 3GS non-jailbreakable?

bshep 17y ago
It's jailbreakable but its a tethered jailbreak, which is not very useful... Imagine having to reboot your phone when you dont have access to your laptop ==> No phone till you get home. If an un-tethered jailbreak becomes avaiable I would upgrade in a heart-beat.

bmj 17y ago

This is just a way of forcing people to upgrade to the latest non-jailbreakable hardware. "Forcing" only if those users actually want multi-tasking. I'm guessing a large percentage of the user base won't covet this feature.