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Philadelphia. Madison. HTH.

niftich 10y ago
The areas of Philadelphia that are built in this style can hardly be called a 'safe environment', unfortunately [1]. Madison, however, on first blush seems like an excellent example, in that it's a large (~250k) city ranked highly on most metrics, and has a mid-rise downtown. But a look at a satellite image reveals that the city limits of Madison contain large areas of single-family detached houses, and mid- and high-rises are restricted to the Isthmus and areas immediately surrounding the University [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia#Crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia#Crime [2] https://www.google.com/maps/place/Madison,+WI/@43.0850975,-89.4764601,27073m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x8806536d3a2019ff:0x4e0cfcb5ba484198!8m2!3d43.0730517!4d-89.4012302 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Madison,+WI/@43.0850975,-8...
- honkhonkpants 10y ago
  Madison is interesting because it limits height to no higher than the Capitol dome, which isn't particularly high, but also allows a pretty high density by right in most neighborhoods. You could buy a property in Madison and put a three-flat dwelling on it with minimal red tape. If you tried that in SF you'd be dead before all the permitting went through.
- joesmo 10y ago
  "The areas of Philadelphia that are built in this style can hardly be called a 'safe environment', unfortunately" Center city is pretty safe. So is South Street. Old City. Plenty of other neighborhoods too numerous to mention with this style of buildings. Yes, crime is relatively high in the city, but it's concentrated in certain areas (see: http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Philadelphia-Pennsylvania/crime/ http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Philadelphia-Pennsylvania/...). There's a reason the Badlands is called the Badlands and Center City isn't. Judging the whole city to be unsafe by its overall crime stats is ridiculous, unfair, and misleading.

The areas of Philadelphia that are built in this style can hardly be called a 'safe environment', unfortunately [1]. Madison, however, on first blush seems like an excellent example, in that it's a large (~250k) city ranked highly on most metrics, and has a mid-rise downtown. But a look at a satellite image reveals that the city limits of Madison contain large areas of single-family detached houses, and mid- and high-rises are restricted to the Isthmus and areas immediately surrounding the University [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia#Crime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia#Crime [2] https://www.google.com/maps/place/Madison,+WI/@43.0850975,-89.4764601,27073m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x8806536d3a2019ff:0x4e0cfcb5ba484198!8m2!3d43.0730517!4d-89.4012302 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Madison,+WI/@43.0850975,-8...

honkhonkpants 10y ago
Madison is interesting because it limits height to no higher than the Capitol dome, which isn't particularly high, but also allows a pretty high density by right in most neighborhoods. You could buy a property in Madison and put a three-flat dwelling on it with minimal red tape. If you tried that in SF you'd be dead before all the permitting went through.
joesmo 10y ago
"The areas of Philadelphia that are built in this style can hardly be called a 'safe environment', unfortunately" Center city is pretty safe. So is South Street. Old City. Plenty of other neighborhoods too numerous to mention with this style of buildings. Yes, crime is relatively high in the city, but it's concentrated in certain areas (see: http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Philadelphia-Pennsylvania/crime/ http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Philadelphia-Pennsylvania/...). There's a reason the Badlands is called the Badlands and Center City isn't. Judging the whole city to be unsafe by its overall crime stats is ridiculous, unfair, and misleading.