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are we for the legalization of drugs today or against? Heroin, basically a form of Morphine, has legit medical uses. Just like LSD and other fairly simple, pot

are we for the legalization of drugs today or against? Heroin, basically a form of Morphine, has legit medical uses. Just like LSD and other fairly simple, potent molecules. Banning any R&D outright on them was a huge setback for medicine.

allendoerfer 10y ago
> are we for the legalization of drugs today or against? Nobody in their right mind wants to legalize heroin.
- newman8r 10y ago
  speak for yourself, there are plenty of people who think full and unquestionable legalization is the best way to start addressing addiction in modern society rather than treating it like a literal war.
  - allendoerfer 10y ago
    I am living in a city whose drug strategy is a model for others [0]. You can both help the junkies and prosecute the dealers all without gang shootings on the streets. [0] http://www.dw.com/en/frankfurt-still-germanys-drug-capital-but-learning-to-cope/a-3474775 http://www.dw.com/en/frankfurt-still-germanys-drug-capital-b...
    - burkaman 10y ago
      There is often more than one reasonable approach to a problem.
- pinaceae 10y ago
  Portugal did and is seeing benefits.
  - riffraff 10y ago
    it didn't, portugal _decriminalized_ possession of drugs, in an amounts reputed for "personal use". It's still illegal to sell drugs, and if you are caught with a joint you have to face social support, can get various licenses removed, get fined, lose welfare benefits etc. It's a much better policy than the war on drugs, but it's not legalisation.
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- forgetsusername 10y ago
  >Nobody in their right mind wants to legalize heroin. What cave do you live in where heroin and other opiate usage isn't already a massive issue, even though it's illegal? Are you going to start mainlining heroin just because it's legal? I'm not. The point of legalization is to stop throwing addicts in jail.
  - allendoerfer 10y ago
    > The point of legalization is to stop throwing addicts in jail. What cave do you live in where you have to legalize heroin to do that? Please visit the link I posted before your comment. You do not have to legalize heroin to supply clean needles, clean rooms and not prosecute junkies. You can do all that, still keep it illegal to sell and hunt down the dealers.
    - dx034 10y ago
      I think it's less about legalization but rather about decriminalizing it. Making these drugs legal could potentially be dangerous as it sends a message that they are safe to use. But if you get caught buying or possessing drugs for personal use, this shouldn't have any legal consequences. Portugal is one example, but many European countries do this at least for some drugs.

allendoerfer 10y ago

> are we for the legalization of drugs today or against? Nobody in their right mind wants to legalize heroin.

newman8r 10y ago
speak for yourself, there are plenty of people who think full and unquestionable legalization is the best way to start addressing addiction in modern society rather than treating it like a literal war.
- allendoerfer 10y ago
  I am living in a city whose drug strategy is a model for others [0]. You can both help the junkies and prosecute the dealers all without gang shootings on the streets. [0] http://www.dw.com/en/frankfurt-still-germanys-drug-capital-but-learning-to-cope/a-3474775 http://www.dw.com/en/frankfurt-still-germanys-drug-capital-b...
  - burkaman 10y ago
    There is often more than one reasonable approach to a problem.
pinaceae 10y ago
Portugal did and is seeing benefits.
- riffraff 10y ago
  it didn't, portugal _decriminalized_ possession of drugs, in an amounts reputed for "personal use". It's still illegal to sell drugs, and if you are caught with a joint you have to face social support, can get various licenses removed, get fined, lose welfare benefits etc. It's a much better policy than the war on drugs, but it's not legalisation.
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forgetsusername 10y ago
>Nobody in their right mind wants to legalize heroin. What cave do you live in where heroin and other opiate usage isn't already a massive issue, even though it's illegal? Are you going to start mainlining heroin just because it's legal? I'm not. The point of legalization is to stop throwing addicts in jail.
- allendoerfer 10y ago
  > The point of legalization is to stop throwing addicts in jail. What cave do you live in where you have to legalize heroin to do that? Please visit the link I posted before your comment. You do not have to legalize heroin to supply clean needles, clean rooms and not prosecute junkies. You can do all that, still keep it illegal to sell and hunt down the dealers.
  - dx034 10y ago
    I think it's less about legalization but rather about decriminalizing it. Making these drugs legal could potentially be dangerous as it sends a message that they are safe to use. But if you get caught buying or possessing drugs for personal use, this shouldn't have any legal consequences. Portugal is one example, but many European countries do this at least for some drugs.