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Who are these guys? Registrar is in Panama. The site says "partnership with ACLU and Amnesty International", but I cannot find any links from those sites to par

Who are these guys? Registrar is in Panama. The site says "partnership with ACLU and Amnesty International", but I cannot find any links from those sites to pardonsnowden.org Both ACLU and AI have their own petition forms with different letters. https://www.amnesty.org/en/get-involved/take-action/edward-snowden-hero-not-traitor/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/get-involved/take-action/edward-s... https://action.aclu.org/secure/grant_snowden_immunity https://action.aclu.org/secure/grant_snowden_immunity Wondering if ACLU and AI are a little late to confirm, or if this is an elaborate attempt to get qualified contacts info.

dangrossman 10y ago
> The American Civil Liberties Union and Amnesty International are ready to launch the "Pardon Snowden" campaign... pardonsnowden.org. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37341804 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37341804
_jomo 10y ago
https://shop.aclu.org/product/ACLU-Edward-Snowden-Limited-Edition-Shepard-Fairey-Tee?a=snwdotorg https://shop.aclu.org/product/ACLU-Edward-Snowden-Limited-Ed... > Front features artist Shepard Fairey's iconic portrait of Edward Snowden > Back includes ACLU logo and pardonsnowden.org URL
bisRepetita 10y ago
EDIT: Dan below + another source told me this is actually legit.
steamer25 10y ago
Human Rights Watch press release: https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/09/13/us-obama-should-pardon-edward-snowden https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/09/13/us-obama-should-pardon-e...
floatrock 10y ago
Spot on. The top comment in this thread is paranoia about whether this site is a hostile name collection honeypot (I think if it is, so is commenting on this thread, hello nsa). One way of combatting such paranoia is to establish trust. This site accepts donations, but nowhere does it say WHO is running it. It has neat ACLU, Amnesty International, and HRW logos at the bottom, but anyone can put graphics on a page. It has a whole list of supporters, but all without any citation of their support (you would expect the Chomskys, Lessigs, and Greenwalds, but the Soros are a bit more surprising). This is at best a rushed, uncoordinated release. At worst, it IS a name collection honeypot. If this group does in fact have support of ACLU, AI, and HRW, it should link to those organizations' press releases of this particular domain. If it has the endorsements of popular figures, at the very least link to a tweet of theirs. Snowden should be pardoned because he revealed that in the land of the free, we should always be looking over our shoulder asking if this is an NSA sting job. A good way of fighting that paranoia lifestyle is with credibility. These guys are failing that fight.
- kyledrake 10y ago
  I just asked a few people on the "supporters" list who said they had "nothing to do with it", after trying to figure out more about it's core and see if I could get added to the list myself (my opinions on the NSA dragnet crap are well documented, I do not live in fear of them: http://blog.neocities.org/making-the-web-fun-again.html http://blog.neocities.org/making-the-web-fun-again.html). I'm starting to think they just got a list of people they believed might support this petition drive, and then added them to the site as "supporters". Saying they are "supporters" of this drive is misleading. They should change the copy to say "these are some people that also support pardoning Ed Snowden". At this point I would be extremely hesitant to donate money to this group until its foundational structure gets clarified.
  - kyledrake 10y ago
    Update: This has indeed been validated by multiple sources to me as a real thing. The two people I asked about this told me they forgot that they signed up for it (sigh). How's your morning going?
    - Dowwie 10y ago
      and who are YOU? (/sarcasm)
justhw 10y ago
Ed himself tweeted that it's a collaboration between ACLU, Amnesty and HRW. https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/776090123616288768 https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/776090123616288768 So, we're good?
rehevkor5 10y ago
ACLU blog links to it: https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/obama-should-pardon-edward-snowden-today-were-launching-campaign-make-it-happen https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/obama-should-pardon-e... Also, the FAQ page https://www.pardonsnowden.org/faq https://www.pardonsnowden.org/faq mentions, "We've partnered with the nonprofit Center For International Policy (CIP) so that we can offer tax deductibility to donors. Your donation goes to the CIP, they enable tax deductibility, and it is then transferred to us to be used for the campaign."

dangrossman 10y ago

> The American Civil Liberties Union and Amnesty International are ready to launch the "Pardon Snowden" campaign... pardonsnowden.org. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37341804 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37341804

_jomo 10y ago

https://shop.aclu.org/product/ACLU-Edward-Snowden-Limited-Edition-Shepard-Fairey-Tee?a=snwdotorg https://shop.aclu.org/product/ACLU-Edward-Snowden-Limited-Ed... > Front features artist Shepard Fairey's iconic portrait of Edward Snowden > Back includes ACLU logo and pardonsnowden.org URL

bisRepetita 10y ago

EDIT: Dan below + another source told me this is actually legit.

steamer25 10y ago

Human Rights Watch press release: https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/09/13/us-obama-should-pardon-edward-snowden https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/09/13/us-obama-should-pardon-e...

floatrock 10y ago

Spot on. The top comment in this thread is paranoia about whether this site is a hostile name collection honeypot (I think if it is, so is commenting on this thread, hello nsa). One way of combatting such paranoia is to establish trust. This site accepts donations, but nowhere does it say WHO is running it. It has neat ACLU, Amnesty International, and HRW logos at the bottom, but anyone can put graphics on a page. It has a whole list of supporters, but all without any citation of their support (you would expect the Chomskys, Lessigs, and Greenwalds, but the Soros are a bit more surprising). This is at best a rushed, uncoordinated release. At worst, it IS a name collection honeypot. If this group does in fact have support of ACLU, AI, and HRW, it should link to those organizations' press releases of this particular domain. If it has the endorsements of popular figures, at the very least link to a tweet of theirs. Snowden should be pardoned because he revealed that in the land of the free, we should always be looking over our shoulder asking if this is an NSA sting job. A good way of fighting that paranoia lifestyle is with credibility. These guys are failing that fight.

kyledrake 10y ago
I just asked a few people on the "supporters" list who said they had "nothing to do with it", after trying to figure out more about it's core and see if I could get added to the list myself (my opinions on the NSA dragnet crap are well documented, I do not live in fear of them: http://blog.neocities.org/making-the-web-fun-again.html http://blog.neocities.org/making-the-web-fun-again.html). I'm starting to think they just got a list of people they believed might support this petition drive, and then added them to the site as "supporters". Saying they are "supporters" of this drive is misleading. They should change the copy to say "these are some people that also support pardoning Ed Snowden". At this point I would be extremely hesitant to donate money to this group until its foundational structure gets clarified.
- kyledrake 10y ago
  Update: This has indeed been validated by multiple sources to me as a real thing. The two people I asked about this told me they forgot that they signed up for it (sigh). How's your morning going?
  - Dowwie 10y ago
    and who are YOU? (/sarcasm)

justhw 10y ago

Ed himself tweeted that it's a collaboration between ACLU, Amnesty and HRW. https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/776090123616288768 https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/776090123616288768 So, we're good?

rehevkor5 10y ago

ACLU blog links to it: https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/obama-should-pardon-edward-snowden-today-were-launching-campaign-make-it-happen https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/obama-should-pardon-e... Also, the FAQ page https://www.pardonsnowden.org/faq https://www.pardonsnowden.org/faq mentions, "We've partnered with the nonprofit Center For International Policy (CIP) so that we can offer tax deductibility to donors. Your donation goes to the CIP, they enable tax deductibility, and it is then transferred to us to be used for the campaign."