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Precisely. And even as a non-U.S. national I worry if it would land me in trouble if I wanted simply to visit the U.S. on holiday again.

• vidarh 10y ago
  For me it's basically pushed the US far down the list of places to go for leisure. I see the risks as still being very small, but why take the risk when there are so many other great places to visit too? US immigrations stands out for the least pleasant experiences I've had on entering a country, and that includes entering places like China, despite most of the time being perfectly fine (I used to fly in/out of SFO every 6-8 weeks for a period of about two years, so I got to compare them a lot). For business, I will still go if necessary, but I'm finding that I'd take the same precautions for the US as I did for China: Make extra sure to have a full, recent backup, and move "everything" off my laptop onto online storage, just in case they decide to seize it.
  • _Codemonkeyism 10y ago
    "I see the risks as still being very small, but why take the risk" Always reminds me of the line in casino "Look... why take a chance? At least, that's the way I feel about it."
• apk17 10y ago
  Since 9/11 the US already states very explicitly that it doesn't want me as a visitor - I'm not going to go through the (visa) hoops they hold up to me. It was actually administratively much easier to cross the iron curtain in the form of the berlin wall back then than it is now to get into the US (me being german). (This is a bit unfair because there were special regulations for germans inside berlin, and US visas weren't that easy back then either.)
  • dsacco 10y ago
    Where does the United States explicitly state that it doesn't want German visitors?
    • __jal 10y ago
      Where do you fill your hourglass? (The GP's point can be true in the absence of explicit statements from the USG that it doesn't want Germans.)
• aidenn0 10y ago
  If I were a non-U.S. citizen I wouldn't want to visit the US these days, and that fact makes me sad.