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You do know that cops are so trigger happy because they don't know who has the guns, right? Granted, the database would be avoided by some owners with criminal

You do know that cops are so trigger happy because they don't know who has the guns, right? Granted, the database would be avoided by some owners with criminal intent.

LyndsySimon 10y ago
By your own admission, a registry of legal gun owners would in no way diminish the perceived risk to police officers - because criminals own and carry illegal guns.
syshum 10y ago
Cops are so trigger happy for a wide range of reasons, not knowing who has a gun is not one of them The reasons include but not limited to (and in no particular order) 1. Poor Training in Gun Operations and Saftey 2. No Training in deescalation 3. No Accountability for murdering people 4. Decades of "War on X" public policy that makes the citizens the "enemy" of the police 5. Militarization of police. We have effectively turn the Modern Police force into a Paramilitary organization with less oversight and fewer rules of engagement
- pc86 10y ago
  #5 is the root of #3. Police should be well trained in the operations of their firearms, but at the end of the day the vast majority never draw their weapon outside of training. My state police force specifically uses the phrase "paramilitary organization" to describe itself. They do not view themselves as civilians charged with protecting other civilians (which is what they are). They view themselves as a higher subset, with different rules and laws.
  - syshum 10y ago
    >They do not view themselves as civilians charged with protecting other civilians (which is what they are) that is what I have been attempting to dispel. The common misconception that the public has is that the police are in fact a protection force. They are not. I actually give your State Police credit for being honest with the public. Every other police force lies when they claim to be their for the protection of the people. there is never been any legal basis for this belief, every single court ruling on the subject in in fact direct contradiction to the statement "the police are for protection" Police are there to enforce the law. period, end of statement. They have no other purpose. There are very very very very very few cases where police provide any actual protection. For the most part they are revenue generators, tax collectors. They also provide needed protection and security for the government apparatus of power. they ensure the citizens do as their masters in goverment demand. this idea that police are simply citizens here to protect other citizens is a myth and we can not have real police reform until people wake up to reality and stop living in that myth
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You do know that cops are so trigger happy because they don't know who has the guns, right? Granted, the database would be avoided by some owners with criminal intent.

LyndsySimon 10y ago

By your own admission, a registry of legal gun owners would in no way diminish the perceived risk to police officers - because criminals own and carry illegal guns.

syshum 10y ago

Cops are so trigger happy for a wide range of reasons, not knowing who has a gun is not one of them The reasons include but not limited to (and in no particular order) 1. Poor Training in Gun Operations and Saftey 2. No Training in deescalation 3. No Accountability for murdering people 4. Decades of "War on X" public policy that makes the citizens the "enemy" of the police 5. Militarization of police. We have effectively turn the Modern Police force into a Paramilitary organization with less oversight and fewer rules of engagement

pc86 10y ago
#5 is the root of #3. Police should be well trained in the operations of their firearms, but at the end of the day the vast majority never draw their weapon outside of training. My state police force specifically uses the phrase "paramilitary organization" to describe itself. They do not view themselves as civilians charged with protecting other civilians (which is what they are). They view themselves as a higher subset, with different rules and laws.
- syshum 10y ago
  >They do not view themselves as civilians charged with protecting other civilians (which is what they are) that is what I have been attempting to dispel. The common misconception that the public has is that the police are in fact a protection force. They are not. I actually give your State Police credit for being honest with the public. Every other police force lies when they claim to be their for the protection of the people. there is never been any legal basis for this belief, every single court ruling on the subject in in fact direct contradiction to the statement "the police are for protection" Police are there to enforce the law. period, end of statement. They have no other purpose. There are very very very very very few cases where police provide any actual protection. For the most part they are revenue generators, tax collectors. They also provide needed protection and security for the government apparatus of power. they ensure the citizens do as their masters in goverment demand. this idea that police are simply citizens here to protect other citizens is a myth and we can not have real police reform until people wake up to reality and stop living in that myth
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