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>neo-socialist This isn't a word and Norway isn't socialist.

by friendlygrammar 10y ago

the_watcher 10y ago
It has a Wikipedia page, a Wiktionary page, and copious references to it by well known publications.
- friendlygrammar 10y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neosocialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neosocialism Clearly the two "well known" publications (the most preeminent Marxist journals) listed in that wikipedia article and the fact that the wikipedia article's definition of neo socialism has absolutely nothing to do with Norways economic model point to the fact that the parent comment definitely didn't make up that word out of thin air. Norway is not socialist, neosocialist, or whatever dumb made up "socialism" you people try to come up with. Also something having a wiki page on any website and being used in a couple of journals does not make something a term/word. It only indicates that someone wants it to be a term/word.
  - thatcat 10y ago
    It's interesting that Norway is ranked first on the democracy index, yet most Americans view it's policies as 'socialist'.
    - friendlygrammar 10y ago
      The democracy index is bs and most Americans don't even know what the word socialist means. So what is your point because you just stated two completely unrelated facts to what is currently being discussed.
      - thatcat 10y ago
        My point was that some core values of democracy (equality and justice) are incorrectly perceived as 'socialist' in current American linguistic usage. If this were corrected, it is much more likely that American's would support a more democratic, Norwegian governance model.
  - the_watcher 10y ago
    Disagreeing with Norway being socialist doesn't make neosocialism not a thing. Not wanting something to be a term doesn't stop it from being one.
white-flame 10y ago
You're correct, and I probably should have had big air quotes or whatever around that term. Upthread is strong with hyperbole from an American perspective, and that "neo-" is just to distinguish having strong governmental social programs/services/safety nets (often caricatured as "socialism" from both the right and the left) from old-school destructive actual Socialism.

>neo-socialist This isn't a word and Norway isn't socialist.

the_watcher 10y ago

It has a Wikipedia page, a Wiktionary page, and copious references to it by well known publications.

friendlygrammar 10y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neosocialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neosocialism Clearly the two "well known" publications (the most preeminent Marxist journals) listed in that wikipedia article and the fact that the wikipedia article's definition of neo socialism has absolutely nothing to do with Norways economic model point to the fact that the parent comment definitely didn't make up that word out of thin air. Norway is not socialist, neosocialist, or whatever dumb made up "socialism" you people try to come up with. Also something having a wiki page on any website and being used in a couple of journals does not make something a term/word. It only indicates that someone wants it to be a term/word.
- thatcat 10y ago
  It's interesting that Norway is ranked first on the democracy index, yet most Americans view it's policies as 'socialist'.
  - friendlygrammar 10y ago
    The democracy index is bs and most Americans don't even know what the word socialist means. So what is your point because you just stated two completely unrelated facts to what is currently being discussed.
    - thatcat 10y ago
      My point was that some core values of democracy (equality and justice) are incorrectly perceived as 'socialist' in current American linguistic usage. If this were corrected, it is much more likely that American's would support a more democratic, Norwegian governance model.
- the_watcher 10y ago
  Disagreeing with Norway being socialist doesn't make neosocialism not a thing. Not wanting something to be a term doesn't stop it from being one.

white-flame 10y ago

You're correct, and I probably should have had big air quotes or whatever around that term. Upthread is strong with hyperbole from an American perspective, and that "neo-" is just to distinguish having strong governmental social programs/services/safety nets (often caricatured as "socialism" from both the right and the left) from old-school destructive actual Socialism.