> Italy still makes the best espresso _machines_ such as Simonelli Even that I think they're losing ground on - Slayer or Synesso out of Seattle, or Mod Bar o

> Italy still makes the best espresso _machines_ such as Simonelli Even that I think they're losing ground on - Slayer or Synesso out of Seattle, or Mod Bar out of Indiana are pretty great, certainly right up there with any Simonelli or La Marzoco. For consumer level espresso machines, I think Breville (Australian) has been blowing away just about everything under 2k$. It's been interesting to watch them bring more modern control tech into the cheap market.