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This is insanity...and whats worse, is Russian state-media are trying to say they were doping...theres NO doping on those charts.

by NN88 10y ago

ThinkBeat 10y ago
As far as leaks go I find it interesting. We see that athletes are allowed to take some very strong and beneficial drugs and its not doping. I had always pictured that "clean" athletes were not eating OxyContin or required vast amounts of asthma medication to make it through the day. (This last part if from a different disclosure). I think an adjustment to the current regiment would be that each athlete disclose exactly what type of drugs they are consuming. What is doping and what is not is not arbitrary but it certainly changes over time.
- jonah 10y ago
  Maybe we could let athletes take (and disclose) anything they wanted. Then we could develop a handicapping system similar to balance of power in Motorsport. It'd allow for more dimensions of strategy. Would be interesting to see how that would play out.
- __jal 10y ago
  Just like nearly any moral line, morals here are contingent. I think it is hardly necessary to point out the arbitrariness of which recreational drugs are illegal, with one of the most dangerous being legal and considered moral in moderation. As far as sports drugs, I honestly don't care about it, not being someone who watches or participates in any of them. But I strongly suspect that we'll see the "ok"/"not ok" lines being drawn towards maximizing viewers, perhaps with a sop towards athlete-health down the list somewhere. I also predict that conversations about doping will sometime soon indirectly put enough pressure on the US NFL to cause it serious problems about player brain injury. It is hard to worry about player health regarding drugs and ignore the people broken by other aspects of the games.
denom 10y ago
It seems Simone Biles, and the Williams sisters are taking performance enhancing drugs. But the athletes in question have an exemption from the doping agency. More coverage over on the NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/14/sports/simone-biles-serena-venus-williams-russian-hackers-doping.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/14/sports/simone-biles-serena...
- gaius 10y ago
  Yes, they'd have gotten away with it too, on a technicality, if it wasn't for truth-loving hackers. A drug's a drug, a cheat's a cheat. Zero tolerance.
akhilcacharya 10y ago
Same state media that claimed MH17 was shot down by the Ukrainian air force, so I'm not terribly surprised.

This is insanity...and whats worse, is Russian state-media are trying to say they were doping...theres NO doping on those charts.

by NN88 10y ago

This is insanity...and whats worse, is Russian state-media are trying to say they were doping...theres NO doping on those charts.

ThinkBeat 10y ago

As far as leaks go I find it interesting. We see that athletes are allowed to take some very strong and beneficial drugs and its not doping. I had always pictured that "clean" athletes were not eating OxyContin or required vast amounts of asthma medication to make it through the day. (This last part if from a different disclosure). I think an adjustment to the current regiment would be that each athlete disclose exactly what type of drugs they are consuming. What is doping and what is not is not arbitrary but it certainly changes over time.

jonah 10y ago
Maybe we could let athletes take (and disclose) anything they wanted. Then we could develop a handicapping system similar to balance of power in Motorsport. It'd allow for more dimensions of strategy. Would be interesting to see how that would play out.
__jal 10y ago
Just like nearly any moral line, morals here are contingent. I think it is hardly necessary to point out the arbitrariness of which recreational drugs are illegal, with one of the most dangerous being legal and considered moral in moderation. As far as sports drugs, I honestly don't care about it, not being someone who watches or participates in any of them. But I strongly suspect that we'll see the "ok"/"not ok" lines being drawn towards maximizing viewers, perhaps with a sop towards athlete-health down the list somewhere. I also predict that conversations about doping will sometime soon indirectly put enough pressure on the US NFL to cause it serious problems about player brain injury. It is hard to worry about player health regarding drugs and ignore the people broken by other aspects of the games.

denom 10y ago

It seems Simone Biles, and the Williams sisters are taking performance enhancing drugs. But the athletes in question have an exemption from the doping agency. More coverage over on the NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/14/sports/simone-biles-serena-venus-williams-russian-hackers-doping.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/14/sports/simone-biles-serena...

gaius 10y ago
Yes, they'd have gotten away with it too, on a technicality, if it wasn't for truth-loving hackers. A drug's a drug, a cheat's a cheat. Zero tolerance.

akhilcacharya 10y ago

Same state media that claimed MH17 was shot down by the Ukrainian air force, so I'm not terribly surprised.