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Please take a look at the Human Rights Watch reports[0] for USA, China and Russia. I honestly wonder how you can reach such a conclusion about freedom of expres
by rjeli 10y ago
Please take a look at the Human Rights Watch reports[0] for USA, China and Russia. I honestly wonder how you can reach such a conclusion about freedom of expression and human rights in those countries.
[0] https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2016 https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2016
- igivanov 10y agoYou don't need to look there, at all. Just look at the US aggressive wars and subversive activities in this century, e.g. Iraq, Libya and it becomes clear that the value of human rights abroad from the US point of view is exactly 0.
- threeseed 10y agoIraq was a disgrace but bringing up Libya means you are either ignorant or being disingenuous. Gaddafi had imminent plans to commit another cleansing of the opposition. It was always going to be a lose-lose situation for human rights. Doing nothing is not always the right answer.
- babayega2 10y agoIt's better to state the reality not the myth sold by USA : Ghadafi wasn't about to commit anything else than what US allies have already done. Now Libya is a failed state thanks to US and HRW lies.
- stana 10y agoSo how do you rate the situation in Libya before and after Gaddafi?
- fdgdasfadsf 10y agoBad with him there. Much worse with him gone.
- igivanov 10y agoBy calling Iraq a disgrace you are effectively calling the 9/11 a micro-disgrace. That's how these two differ in the order of numbers of lives lost.
- _rc2w 10y agoAs someone who resides in the USA, I'd rather China or Russia have access to my data, regardless of any abuse of human rights. Unlike the US, they're extremely limited in how they can use my data to harm me.
- kevin_thibedeau 10y agoThe problem is that they can sell your data to someone more interested in targeting you specifically. If that happens within the US there is a means to litigate the guilty parties. Outside, you're SOL.
- mafribe 10y agoHuman Rights Watch being an American organisation, led by a member of the US power elite (e.g. Goldman Sachs, Soros' OSF) might have something to do with it? Nah, perish the though!
- fulafel 10y agoHRW funding and staff indeed looks surprisingly US-biased. But Amnesty and PEN also score the US a couple notches above Russia and China.
- csydas 10y agoMmm, I'd agree but the parent is specifically talking about surveillance, not about all human rights, and it's true - the US likes to condemn cyber-espionage and surveillance while simultaneously spying on the entirety of the planet and attacking/infiltrating the planet as it sees fit.
- nyddle 10y agoHuman Rights Watch. By Americans for Americans.
- joesmo 10y agoThe parent is talking only about surveillance, but from the report you linked, it's pretty obvious the US, Russia, and China, are pretty much in the same horrific boat as far as human rights abuses. Actually, I'd say the US, with 2.37 million people behind bars is worse than either China or Russia or any other country currently on earth. When you're systematically ruining that many lives, you're in Nazi territory.
- y4mi 10y agoi hope you're kidding or trolling. the current situation with incarcerations in america sounds horrible, yes, but its a far cry from systematically eradicating millions of people per year...
- joesmo 10y agoReally? I don't see much difference. Slavery is slavery. Torture is torture. Rape is rape. The first two are legal in prison and all three are widely practiced as punishment. Yes, you have a better chance of surviving our prisons, but by that point, your life is ruined and pretty much over anyway. There are much worse things than death.
- mainguy 10y agoExactly!, I mean for sure slavery is not so bad too if you treat the slaves nicely right? Systematically enslaving them is also a far cry from eradicating them right?