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On the one hand, I'm an organ donor and think it's a good idea. Once I'm dead, you can have what's left over. On the other, a person's body is the one thing yo
by r_smart 10y ago
On the one hand, I'm an organ donor and think it's a good idea. Once I'm dead, you can have what's left over.
On the other, a person's body is the one thing you can't take from them (without this being a Cronenberg movie). I know they can still opt out, but having the default be to take somebody's body when they die seems wrong to me.
Why not have an awareness campaign, or offer some kind of small tax incentive to organ donors?
- NLips 10y agoAnother way to phrase it is that the default is to save someone's life.
- r_smart 10y agoBut why is this decision better than other ones to accomplish the same means? And is it an ethical violation? I have no clear stance on it at the moment. I appreciate the goal, but this particular solution isn't entirely sitting well with me.
- clydethefrog 10y agoThe government tried raising awareness for years, it did not work. Other EU countries that have a yes unless donor standard have significant more donors. We need more donors, the people on the waiting list is too long. It will take a few minutes to opt-out if you feel it's wrong. That saying, it still need to be passed in the first chamber, which will check if this infringes our law.
- r_smart 10y agoI think my issue is that I don't like seeing the state making more and more decisions for people. Like I said, I am sympathetic to the need though, and am a donor, hence my ambivalence. And from the article, it looks like the yes vote came down to one vote (unless I misread), so it's likely going to be a close one. Also, for the record, I'm in the US, so this is an entirely intellectual exercise for me.
- dudul 10y ago> The government tried raising awareness for years, it did not work. Or it did, but people just decided that they didn't want to be donors.
- Oletros 10y agoBut people wants to have a transplant when they are ill, you can't have them without donation
- dudul 10y agoWell, then people want transplants, but people also don't want to be donors. Maybe that's just how it is. In a way, making it "opt-in" by default is kind of similar to these anti-patterns we see online. Where the "close" button is very tiny in the corner, or the option to hide content is buried under 3 layers of settings. Until we make organ donation mandatory and no longer optional there is only so much we can do. We need to accept to play the game and recognize the right to people to not be organ donors, whatever reasons they may have.
- namlem 10y agoOnce you're dead, is it really "your" body anymore? Religious superstitions aside, I've never understood why anyone cares what happens to their meat sack when they no longer inhabit it.
- r_smart 10y agoI'm with you. Like I said, I'm a donor. I think there's a good chance the families care, and the person might care. While I'm also not religious, if we're going to allow freedom of religion, it's important for the state not to disregard such things (though you and I are free to).
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- Oletros 10y agoThe law in Spain says that everyone is donor by default but the family or close friends must be asked always to respect the deceased will. http://europe.newsweek.com/spain-has-become-world-leader-organ-donations-305841?rm=eu http://europe.newsweek.com/spain-has-become-world-leader-org...
- Aaargh20318 10y ago> a person's body is the one thing you can't take from them It's not being taken, they left it behind.